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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 4:01 pm
Post subject: view 35mm negative on PC screen?
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| I know there is a gadget that can do this but I can't seem to find it. Some
time ago I saw a TV program showing a photographer takes pictures, develop
the 35mm film and then slide the negs into a gadget that made the pics
appear as positives on a laptop monitor, with no printing or scanning
needed. What is this equipment called? and where can one get it?
Thanks for any help.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 4:01 pm
Post subject: Re: view 35mm negative on PC screen? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"tg" <nospam DeleteThis @nospam.co.uk> wrote...
> I know there is a gadget that can do this but I can't seem to find it.
Some
> time ago I saw a TV program showing a photographer takes pictures, develop
> the 35mm film and then slide the negs into a gadget that made the pics
> appear as positives on a laptop monitor, with no printing or scanning
> needed.
You've been misinformed. Scanning is needed for any object to appear
on a TV or a computer monitor, a photo slide is no exception. Whether
that scanning is done by a dedicated film scanner or by some specialised
TV camera, doesn't matter. When people are photographed by a TV camera,
their faces are, you guessed it, _scanned_. So, don't say "no scanning
is needed". Just a different type of scanning.
> What is this equipment called? and where can one get it?
That I don't know. But I have a suspicion that if you mount a slide
in front of a camcorder and put a light source behind the slide, you
will be able to focus on the slide. Basically, such device can be made
from a portable light table, a camcorder, and a few pieces of wood. It
could even be a fun weekend project.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 4:01 pm
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tg wrote:
> I know there is a gadget that can do this but I can't seem to find it. Some
> time ago I saw a TV program showing a photographer takes pictures, develop
> the 35mm film and then slide the negs into a gadget that made the pics
> appear as positives on a laptop monitor, with no printing or scanning
> needed. What is this equipment called? and where can one get it?
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
Not sure what you mean. Either he used a film scanner (not a flatbed
scanner), or he used a backlight and a television camera or digital camera.
The best way to do this, it should go without saying, is a film scanner.
(note: a television camera cannot come anywhere close to what a the
cheapest current digital cameras can do in this respect; and no average
digital camera can come close to what the average film scanner can do).
Cheers,
Alan.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: view 35mm negative on PC screen? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 4:24 pm
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Victor Bazarov <v.Abazarov.RemoveThis@attAbi.com> wrote in message
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> "tg" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.co.uk> wrote...
> > I know there is a gadget that can do this but I can't seem to find it.
> Some
> > time ago I saw a TV program showing a photographer takes pictures,
develop
> > the 35mm film and then slide the negs into a gadget that made the pics
> > appear as positives on a laptop monitor, with no printing or scanning
> > needed.
>
> You've been misinformed. Scanning is needed for any object to appear
> on a TV or a computer monitor, a photo slide is no exception. Whether
> that scanning is done by a dedicated film scanner or by some specialised
> TV camera, doesn't matter. When people are photographed by a TV camera,
> their faces are, you guessed it, _scanned_. So, don't say "no scanning
> is needed". Just a different type of scanning.
>
> > What is this equipment called? and where can one get it?
>
> That I don't know. But I have a suspicion that if you mount a slide
> in front of a camcorder and put a light source behind the slide, you
> will be able to focus on the slide. Basically, such device can be made
> from a portable light table, a camcorder, and a few pieces of wood. It
> could even be a fun weekend project.
>
>
Strikes me that you could just fit a standard slide copier to a camcorder,
and record the slide instead of copying it with a still camera.....Then
connect the camcorder to a TV and watch your own still slide on TV. Results
will be as good as the TV and camcorder resolution will allow.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: view 35mm negative on PC screen? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 6:13 pm
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"Alan Browne" <alan.browne RemoveThis @videotron.ca> wrote in message
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> tg wrote:
> > I know there is a gadget that can do this but I can't seem to find it.
Some
> > time ago I saw a TV program showing a photographer takes pictures,
develop
> > the 35mm film and then slide the negs into a gadget that made the pics
> > appear as positives on a laptop monitor, with no printing or scanning
> > needed. What is this equipment called? and where can one get it?
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> >
>
> Not sure what you mean. Either he used a film scanner (not a flatbed
> scanner), or he used a backlight and a television camera or digital
camera.
>
> The best way to do this, it should go without saying, is a film scanner.
>
Not necessaraly when you consider cost of speed. If all you are going
to use the results for is a laptop display, then you don't really need much.
--
Joseph E. Meehan
26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math
> (note: a television camera cannot come anywhere close to what a the
> cheapest current digital cameras can do in this respect; and no average
> digital camera can come close to what the average film scanner can do).
>
> Cheers,
> Alan.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 6:13 pm
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Joseph Meehan wrote:
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>>The best way to do this, it should go without saying, is a film scanner.
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> Not necessaraly when you consider cost of speed. If all you are going
> to use the results for is a laptop display, then you don't really need much.
>
I suppose so, but it smacks of something that looks great when you
see it demonstrated on television, but the delivered result is much less
than disappointing... (In any case, I bet what the poster saw, was a
film scanner).
Cheers,
Alan<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: view 35mm negative on PC screen? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 7:44 pm
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I seem to remember the cops using something very similar when I got a
speeding fine once. I think it was like a microfische type of reader that
somehow got converted into a digital image because they showed it to me on a
computer screen.
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"Victor Bazarov" <v.Abazarov.RemoveThis@attAbi.com> wrote in message
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> "tg" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.co.uk> wrote...
> > I know there is a gadget that can do this but I can't seem to find it.
> Some
> > time ago I saw a TV program showing a photographer takes pictures,
develop
> > the 35mm film and then slide the negs into a gadget that made the pics
> > appear as positives on a laptop monitor, with no printing or scanning
> > needed.
>
> You've been misinformed. Scanning is needed for any object to appear
> on a TV or a computer monitor, a photo slide is no exception. Whether
> that scanning is done by a dedicated film scanner or by some specialised
> TV camera, doesn't matter. When people are photographed by a TV camera,
> their faces are, you guessed it, _scanned_. So, don't say "no scanning
> is needed". Just a different type of scanning.
>
> > What is this equipment called? and where can one get it?
>
> That I don't know. But I have a suspicion that if you mount a slide
> in front of a camcorder and put a light source behind the slide, you
> will be able to focus on the slide. Basically, such device can be made
> from a portable light table, a camcorder, and a few pieces of wood. It
> could even be a fun weekend project.
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 9:07 pm
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I remember the Tamron Fotovix did that
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"tg" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
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> I know there is a gadget that can do this but I can't seem to find it.
Some
> time ago I saw a TV program showing a photographer takes pictures, develop
> the 35mm film and then slide the negs into a gadget that made the pics
> appear as positives on a laptop monitor, with no printing or scanning
> needed. What is this equipment called? and where can one get it?
> Thanks for any help.
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 2:40 am
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"tg" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message news:3f2a71d3@212.67.96.135...
> I know there is a gadget that can do this but I can't seem to find it.
Some
> time ago I saw a TV program showing a photographer takes pictures, develop
> the 35mm film and then slide the negs into a gadget that made the pics
> appear as positives on a laptop monitor, with no printing or scanning
> needed. What is this equipment called? and where can one get it?
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
Two devices spring to mind.
The first was a Tamron Fotovix. Made in the early 1990's. Basically a fixed
focus video camera pointing at a light table the size of a 35mm neg enclosed
in a grey metal box. This wired up into the composite video socket on a tv.
The secound was a Fuji device made in the mid 1990's, I think called an
NP-110 (but that migt be my mind playing tricks). Basically a hand held
colour scanner with a couple of flaps that extended down to act like legs.
Output was via parallel port or scsi. Alleged 300dpi I remember and sold for
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