unused north coyote buttes permit

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:09:19 -0500, "ML"
<climber1957(remove_this)@hotmail.com> wrote:

   >>>> wire pass to coyote buttes area
 >
 >there's a joke here somewhere.
 >

Not at all. Coyote Buttes is in the Paria Canyon Wilderness area of
Southern Utah/Northern Arizona. It is administered by the BLM, and the
rationed entry permits are in high demand. The North Section includes
*The Wave* and is approached from the Wire Pass Trailhead (which is
also one of the three entrances to Buckskin Gulch -- probably the
longest slot canyon in the world).

The permits are booked-up many months in advance, and lines form in
the BLM office at 9am each morning, filled with people hoping for
cancellations. A permit costs $5. The OP was kind to offer his/her
permit, and there are lots of folks out there who would kill for it.

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On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:41:38 GMT, Caveat <caveat.DeleteThis@bogusaddy.com> wrote:

 >On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:09:19 -0500, "ML"
 ><climber1957(remove_this)@hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
   >>>>> wire pass to coyote buttes area
  >>
  >>there's a joke here somewhere.
  >>
 >
 >Not at all. Coyote Buttes is in the Paria Canyon Wilderness area of
 >Southern Utah/Northern Arizona. It is administered by the BLM, and the
 >rationed entry permits are in high demand. The North Section includes
 >*The Wave* and is approached from the Wire Pass Trailhead (which is
 >also one of the three entrances to Buckskin Gulch -- probably the
 >longest slot canyon in the world).
 >
 >The permits are booked-up many months in advance, and lines form in
 >the BLM office at 9am each morning, filled with people hoping for
 >cancellations. A permit costs $5. The OP was kind to offer his/her
 >permit, and there are lots of folks out there who would kill for it.
 >
 >http://www.didgeridoings.com/eyemagic/Nature/Coyote1/Coy1.html
 >http://www.phototravel.com/sample/coyote.htm
 >http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~srj2/coyoteb/
 >
Some day I will have time and money available at the same time for
things like this.

And, it's pronounced "Byoot", which might spoil some of the obvious
jokes.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
------------------------------------------------
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:58:14 GMT, Gary S. <Idontwantspam@net> wrote:

  >>On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:41:38 GMT, Caveat <caveat RemoveThis @bogusaddy.com> wrote:
  >>Coyote Buttes is in the Paria Canyon Wilderness area of
  >>Southern Utah/Northern Arizona....

 >Some day I will have time and money available at the same time for
 >things like this.


Yep, it seems like it's always a choice between time OR money, Gary.
But if you ever get out this way, though, let me know. There are many
other fabulous, but kinda secret, areas hereabouts that are never
mentioned or written about .


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Just go its public land and about 1 ranger per thousand square miles. they
don't patrol and they really can't do anything to you if they cath you.
"Gary S." <Idontwantspam@net> wrote in message
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 > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:41:38 GMT, Caveat <caveat RemoveThis @bogusaddy.com> wrote:
 >
  > >On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:09:19 -0500, "ML"
  > ><climber1957(remove_this)@hotmail.com> wrote:
  > >
   > >>>>> wire pass to coyote buttes area
   > >>
   > >>there's a joke here somewhere.
   > >>
  > >
  > >Not at all. Coyote Buttes is in the Paria Canyon Wilderness area of
  > >Southern Utah/Northern Arizona. It is administered by the BLM, and the
  > >rationed entry permits are in high demand. The North Section includes
  > >*The Wave* and is approached from the Wire Pass Trailhead (which is
  > >also one of the three entrances to Buckskin Gulch -- probably the
  > >longest slot canyon in the world).
  > >
  > >The permits are booked-up many months in advance, and lines form in
  > >the BLM office at 9am each morning, filled with people hoping for
  > >cancellations. A permit costs $5. The OP was kind to offer his/her
  > >permit, and there are lots of folks out there who would kill for it.
  > >
  > >http://www.didgeridoings.com/eyemagic/Nature/Coyote1/Coy1.html
  > >http://www.phototravel.com/sample/coyote.htm
  > >http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~srj2/coyoteb/
  > >
 > Some day I will have time and money available at the same time for
 > things like this.
 >
 > And, it's pronounced "Byoot", which might spoil some of the obvious
 > jokes.
 >
 > Happy trails,
 > Gary (net.yogi.bear)
 > ------------------------------------------------
 > at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence
 >
 > Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
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I was there a year ago, and there was a ranger at the top when I got
there. He had overnighted there, and was checking permits, presumably
of anyone he met as he was coming out.

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 02:30:24 GMT, "robert and joann rasmussen"
<rjr14 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:

 >Just go its public land and about 1 ranger per thousand square miles. they
 >don't patrol and they really can't do anything to you if they cath you.
 >"Gary S." <Idontwantspam@net> wrote in message
 >news:b58nrv0q4ftub27mjlrc034amg7s34or80@4ax.com...
  >> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:41:38 GMT, Caveat <caveat RemoveThis @bogusaddy.com> wrote:
  >>
   >> >On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:09:19 -0500, "ML"
   >> ><climber1957(remove_this)@hotmail.com> wrote:
   >> >
   >> >>>>> wire pass to coyote buttes area
   >> >>
   >> >>there's a joke here somewhere.
   >> >>
   >> >
   >> >Not at all. Coyote Buttes is in the Paria Canyon Wilderness area of
   >> >Southern Utah/Northern Arizona. It is administered by the BLM, and the
   >> >rationed entry permits are in high demand. The North Section includes
   >> >*The Wave* and is approached from the Wire Pass Trailhead (which is
   >> >also one of the three entrances to Buckskin Gulch -- probably the
   >> >longest slot canyon in the world).
   >> >
   >> >The permits are booked-up many months in advance, and lines form in
   >> >the BLM office at 9am each morning, filled with people hoping for
   >> >cancellations. A permit costs $5. The OP was kind to offer his/her
   >> >permit, and there are lots of folks out there who would kill for it.
   >> >
   >> >http://www.didgeridoings.com/eyemagic/Nature/Coyote1/Coy1.html
   >> >http://www.phototravel.com/sample/coyote.htm
   >> >http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~srj2/coyoteb/
   >> >
  >> Some day I will have time and money available at the same time for
  >> things like this.
  >>
  >> And, it's pronounced "Byoot", which might spoil some of the obvious
  >> jokes.
  >>
  >> Happy trails,
  >> Gary (net.yogi.bear)
  >> ------------------------------------------------
  >> at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence
  >>
  >> Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
  >> Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom
 >


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  >> "robert and joann rasmussen" <rjr14 DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
 >
  >>Just go its public land and about 1 ranger per thousand square miles. they
  >>don't patrol and they really can't do anything to you if they cath you.

 >From: Footsie mgmatson DeleteThis @example.com
 >
 >I was there a year ago, and there was a ranger at the top when I got
 >there. He had overnighted there, and was checking permits, presumably
 >of anyone he met as he was coming out.

Footsie is right, a Ranger patrols the trail about once a week, more often
during high season. If caught without a permit the fine is $50 unless you are
guiding a commercial trip, in which case you will lose your commercial guide
permit for that area plus a larger fine.

And they check the parking lot (Wire Pass) EVERY day to make sure all the cars
have a permit on the dashboard, though you can get around this by buying the
Paria Canyon/Wire Pass day hike permit and just taking the fork at the CB
turnoff.

The permit system is in place to keep the number of people down so the
experience is better and it works well, especially now that they have walk-up
day permits, I feel.

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There will always be those who feel they know better than everyone else
and abuse the system. The last time I went there were at least 10 people
more than the allotment. This will only give photographers a worse
reputation than they already have and make it harder on the rest of us
when stricter regulations are put in place.

Bill Hilton wrote:
   >>>"robert and joann rasmussen" <rjr14 DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
  >>
   >>>Just go its public land and about 1 ranger per thousand square miles. they
   >>>don't patrol and they really can't do anything to you if they cath you.
 >
 >
  >>From: Footsie mgmatson DeleteThis @example.com
  >>
  >>I was there a year ago, and there was a ranger at the top when I got
  >>there. He had overnighted there, and was checking permits, presumably
  >>of anyone he met as he was coming out.
 >
 >
 > Footsie is right, a Ranger patrols the trail about once a week, more often
 > during high season. If caught without a permit the fine is $50 unless you are
 > guiding a commercial trip, in which case you will lose your commercial guide
 > permit for that area plus a larger fine.
 >
 > And they check the parking lot (Wire Pass) EVERY day to make sure all the cars
 > have a permit on the dashboard, though you can get around this by buying the
 > Paria Canyon/Wire Pass day hike permit and just taking the fork at the CB
 > turnoff.
 >
 > The permit system is in place to keep the number of people down so the
 > experience is better and it works well, especially now that they have walk-up
 > day permits, I feel.
 >
 > Bill
 >
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True. What's next? Duraflame logs?

"Allan" <lahpmahn.nospam DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > There will always be those who feel they know better than everyone else
 > and abuse the system. The last time I went there were at least 10 people
 > more than the allotment. This will only give photographers a worse
 > reputation than they already have and make it harder on the rest of us
 > when stricter regulations are put in place.
 >
 > Bill Hilton wrote:
   > >>>"robert and joann rasmussen" <rjr14 DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
   > >>
   > >>>Just go its public land and about 1 ranger per thousand square miles.
they
   > >>>don't patrol and they really can't do anything to you if they cath you.
  > >
  > >
   > >>From: Footsie mgmatson DeleteThis @example.com
   > >>
   > >>I was there a year ago, and there was a ranger at the top when I got
   > >>there. He had overnighted there, and was checking permits, presumably
   > >>of anyone he met as he was coming out.
  > >
  > >
  > > Footsie is right, a Ranger patrols the trail about once a week, more
often
  > > during high season. If caught without a permit the fine is $50 unless
you are
  > > guiding a commercial trip, in which case you will lose your commercial
guide
  > > permit for that area plus a larger fine.
  > >
  > > And they check the parking lot (Wire Pass) EVERY day to make sure all
the cars
  > > have a permit on the dashboard, though you can get around this by buying
the
  > > Paria Canyon/Wire Pass day hike permit and just taking the fork at the
CB
  > > turnoff.
  > >
  > > The permit system is in place to keep the number of people down so the
  > > experience is better and it works well, especially now that they have
walk-up
  > > day permits, I feel.
  > >
  > > Bill
  > >
  > >
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 >From: " B.o.w.s.e.r" not.RemoveThis@this.time

 >True. What's next? Duraflame logs?

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Never. He's a fraud. Last spring (Early May/Late April) I visited his
gallery in Springdale UT during a hiking trip. Honestly, while his
compositions are nice but unoriginal the colors were ridiculous. Everything
was oversaturated to the Nth degree and the colors were incredibly warm. On
some photos where a little blue sky was visible, it was clear to see just
how much he warmed them up. Lastly, he never, ever shows the original
chromes alongside the prints. On the plus side, since he shoots with a large
format camera, the detail in his shots is incredible. Technically, he does a
great job.

I will give him trememdous credit for attracting attention to himself,
marketing his methods, and being successful financially.

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 >
  > >True. What's next? Duraflame logs?
 >
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