quality DX-coded Infrared film?

Like another poster said, your meter will not be reliable for IR film.
So ISO 100 is meaningless. You need to place the camera in manual and
refer to the films data sheet for starting exposures. Then bracket a
lot. I have been kicking around the idea of using my Olympus 2020
digicam as an IR exposure meter. I have a suitable Range Finder film
camera, filter, and a roll of Kodak HIE in my fridge. I am waiting for
a good IR kind of day to go out. My idea is to record the exposure
reading with the digicam then run a series of exposures with the film
camera using the same IR filter. Then compare what I got. I hope to
get a "calibrated" IR meter as I will know what the compensation will be
for next time. Thats the great hope anyway.

Chris wrote:
 > Can anyone recommend a good I/R 35mm film with DX-coding?
 >
 > Thanks.
 >
 >

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Chris wrote:
 > Can anyone recommend a good I/R 35mm film with DX-coding?
 >
 > Thanks.

I am not all that well informed about I/R, but as I recall many years
ago when I looked at it, film speed was not really very useful.
Experimentation was needed. The spectrum sensitivity of meters is designed
to fit visible light. The meters did not provide predictable accurate
metering. If my memory is correct (it is from pre DX days) I don't see
where DX coding would be of much use, unless things have changed.

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"Joseph Meehan" <sligojoeS_PAM_2.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Chris wrote:
  > > Can anyone recommend a good I/R 35mm film with DX-coding?
  > >
  > > Thanks.
 >
 > I am not all that well informed about I/R, but as I recall many years
 > ago when I looked at it, film speed was not really very useful.
 > Experimentation was needed. The spectrum sensitivity of meters is
designed
 > to fit visible light. The meters did not provide predictable accurate
 > metering. If my memory is correct (it is from pre DX days) I don't see
 > where DX coding would be of much use, unless things have changed.

The camera I want to experiment with requires film in DX coding, otherwise
it'll read as ISO 100 by default.

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"Skip M" <shadowcatcher.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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 > AFAIKA, there are no true IR films with DX coding, since your exposure
will
 > vary due to conditions and use. The closest thing I know to IR with DX
 > coding is Ilford SFX, a near IR film, and I believe Konica makes one, too,
 > but I can't remember the designation. What camera are you using? If you
 > are shooting IR, or near IR film, you'll need to use a red filter, a 25
red
 > is the weakest that will show any effects, the deeper red, the better the
 > effect. But if you can't attach a filter, IR is pretty useless. If you
are
 > using an SLR, generally you can select the ISO, and override the default.
 > But ISO 100 is a fair starting place, anyway. 50 is better, though.

The Minolta 3000i won't let you override the ISO. It's 32 to 3200 DX-coded,
or 100 if it's not DX. I checked, and there's no I/R LED in the film
compartment to expose the bottom portion of the film inadvertently, so I'd
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I'll be danged, never heard of an SLR that didn't let you set ISO. Well, I
did say "generally." Hmmmph, "From the Mind of Minolta..."

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 >
 > "Skip M" <shadowcatcher DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
 > news:RInec.8635$HN3.2973@fed1read07...
  > > AFAIKA, there are no true IR films with DX coding, since your exposure
 > will
  > > vary due to conditions and use. The closest thing I know to IR with DX
  > > coding is Ilford SFX, a near IR film, and I believe Konica makes one,
too,
  > > but I can't remember the designation. What camera are you using? If
you
  > > are shooting IR, or near IR film, you'll need to use a red filter, a 25
 > red
  > > is the weakest that will show any effects, the deeper red, the better
the
  > > effect. But if you can't attach a filter, IR is pretty useless. If you
 > are
  > > using an SLR, generally you can select the ISO, and override the
default.
  > > But ISO 100 is a fair starting place, anyway. 50 is better, though.
 >
 > The Minolta 3000i won't let you override the ISO. It's 32 to 3200
DX-coded,
 > or 100 if it's not DX. I checked, and there's no I/R LED in the film
 > compartment to expose the bottom portion of the film inadvertently, so I'd
 > like to give it a try sometime, just not sure if it'd be a good idea.
 >
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Chris <rrufiange.RemoveThis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

 >
 > The Minolta 3000i won't let you override the ISO. It's 32 to 3200 DX-coded,
 > or 100 if it's not DX. I checked, and there's no I/R LED in the film
 > compartment to expose the bottom portion of the film inadvertently, so I'd
 > like to give it a try sometime, just not sure if it'd be a good idea.


Does it let you set the shutter speed and aperture? Does it give you
exposure compensation? I've got one camera that needs DX. If you want to use
the in camera meter you just use exposure compensation. 50 is -1 one stop.
25 is -2 stops. If you don't need the in camera meter and you can set the
camera in manual mode then just ignore the meter.

  DX stickers used to exist but I doubt they are available in the speed you
need. I wonder if you could print your own DX sticker?

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Chris wrote:
 > "Joseph Meehan" <sligojoeS_PAM_2.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:7Akec.17773$ng1.3894@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
  >> Chris wrote:
   >>> Can anyone recommend a good I/R 35mm film with DX-coding?
   >>>
   >>> Thanks.
  >>
  >> I am not all that well informed about I/R, but as I recall many
  >> years ago when I looked at it, film speed was not really very useful.
  >> Experimentation was needed. The spectrum sensitivity of meters is
  >> designed to fit visible light. The meters did not provide
  >> predictable accurate metering. If my memory is correct (it is from
  >> pre DX days) I don't see where DX coding would be of much use,
  >> unless things have changed.
 >
 > The camera I want to experiment with requires film in DX coding,
 > otherwise it'll read as ISO 100 by default.
 >
 > Thanks.

Interesting. Does it allow for manual exposure?

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Nick Zentena wrote:

 > Chris <rrufiange RemoveThis @cfl.rr.com> wrote:
 >
 >
  >>The Minolta 3000i won't let you override the ISO. It's 32 to 3200 DX-coded,
  >>or 100 if it's not DX. I checked, and there's no I/R LED in the film
  >>compartment to expose the bottom portion of the film inadvertently, so I'd
  >>like to give it a try sometime, just not sure if it'd be a good idea.
 >
 >
 >
 > Does it let you set the shutter speed and aperture? Does it give you
 > exposure compensation? I've got one camera that needs DX. If you want to use
 > the in camera meter you just use exposure compensation. 50 is -1 one stop.
 > 25 is -2 stops. If you don't need the in camera meter and you can set the

er, setting the ISO to a lower number increases the exposure to the film
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"Chris" <rrufiange.RemoveThis@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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 > Can anyone recommend a good I/R 35mm film with DX-coding?
 >
 > Thanks.
 >
 >

Chris,

This may not be an answer to your question, but may be a solution to your
problem. Look at the following link:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://porterscamerastore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=42-0066&Category_Code=F1U" target="_blank">http://porterscamerastore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Produc...ode=42-</a>

These are DX labels that you can add to any canister (with or without DX
coding, just cover over the existing DX info with the label)

ISO starts at 40.

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"Joseph Meehan" <sligojoeS_PAM_2 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Chris wrote:
  > > "Joseph Meehan" <sligojoeS_PAM_2 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
  > > news:7Akec.17773$ng1.3894@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
   > >> Chris wrote:
   > >>> Can anyone recommend a good I/R 35mm film with DX-coding?
   > >>>
   > >>> Thanks.
   > >>
   > >> I am not all that well informed about I/R, but as I recall many
   > >> years ago when I looked at it, film speed was not really very useful.
   > >> Experimentation was needed. The spectrum sensitivity of meters is
   > >> designed to fit visible light. The meters did not provide
   > >> predictable accurate metering. If my memory is correct (it is from
   > >> pre DX days) I don't see where DX coding would be of much use,
   > >> unless things have changed.
  > >
  > > The camera I want to experiment with requires film in DX coding,
  > > otherwise it'll read as ISO 100 by default.
  > >
  > > Thanks.
 >
 > Interesting. Does it allow for manual exposure?

Nope. Glorified P&S. Failing finding DX-coded I/R, will I get much at ISO
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Chris wrote:
  >>
  >> Interesting. Does it allow for manual exposure?
 >
 > Nope. Glorified P&S. Failing finding DX-coded I/R, will I get much
 > at ISO 100?

I/R is 60% trial and error. I don't know what you will get. Don't
forget the proper filter as indicated by the film.

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"Nick Zentena" <zentena RemoveThis @hophead.dyndns.org> wrote in message
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 > Chris <rrufiange RemoveThis @cfl.rr.com> wrote:
 >
  > >
  > > The Minolta 3000i won't let you override the ISO. It's 32 to 3200
DX-coded,
  > > or 100 if it's not DX. I checked, and there's no I/R LED in the film
  > > compartment to expose the bottom portion of the film inadvertently, so
I'd
  > > like to give it a try sometime, just not sure if it'd be a good idea.
 >
 >
 > Does it let you set the shutter speed and aperture? Does it give you
 > exposure compensation? I've got one camera that needs DX. If you want to
use
 > the in camera meter you just use exposure compensation. 50 is -1 one stop.
 > 25 is -2 stops. If you don't need the in camera meter and you can set the
 > camera in manual mode then just ignore the meter.
 >
 > DX stickers used to exist but I doubt they are available in the speed you
 > need. I wonder if you could print your own DX sticker?

You can't do anything manually except focus on a 3000i. The rest is
automatic.

It's one of those "intelligent" cams like the 7000i, but costs alot less.
No AF illuminator, but got one on the dedicated flash I picked up. No
manual shutter or aperture. It determines on it's own what shutter speed is
best. Shutter of 1/1000th to 4 seconds. Just barely effective for night
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Chris <rrufiange RemoveThis @cfl.rr.com> wrote:
 >
 > You can't do anything manually except focus on a 3000i. The rest is
 > automatic.
 >
 > It's one of those "intelligent" cams like the 7000i, but costs alot less.
 > No AF illuminator, but got one on the dedicated flash I picked up. No
 > manual shutter or aperture. It determines on it's own what shutter speed is
 > best. Shutter of 1/1000th to 4 seconds. Just barely effective for night
 > shots. It was a cheap date.


You might want to pickup a cheap fully manual camera. Some aren't selling
for much more then getting a roll of IR film processed. Have you considered
processing?

Scroll down to the section on Maco

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.cocam.co.uk/CoCamWS/Infrared/INFRARED.HTM#FILM" target="_blank">http://www.cocam.co.uk/CoCamWS/Infrared/INFRARED.HTM#FILM</a>

Supposedly 100 ISO.

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