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 >But many will be indoors, so I want to try to get one with not much red
 >eye, though I notice many seem to have that problem. I look at many

They all have red-eye problems. There are only three ways around red-eye:

1. Don't use a flash. (This is my preferred method.)

2. Use a flash far enough away from the lens. (You can't usually do
this with P&S cameras, unless you use a slave, and that takes a
lot of work.)

3. Fix the red-eye after you take the picture. (I've found that a #2
pencil is perfect for coloring out red-eye.)

-Joel

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 >
 > Cathy wrote:
  > > Hi all,
  > > I've been looking for the last few months for a digital camera in
 > stores
  > > and read tons and tons of reviews, and now am confused as to what I
  > > should get.
 >
 > A guy at work just bought an Olympus C-755 for $250 at Fry's (or maybe
 > he got it through Outpost.com). 4Mp, 10x optical zoom, the flash works
 > fine, and has the capability of taking an aftermarket flash unit,
 > red-eye reduction mode, many preset modes (outdoor, portrait, low
 > light, action, etc.), "manual" mode for adjusting shutter speed,
 > aperture, ISO... delay timer (useful for including one's self in the
 > picture if no one else is around), movie mode, noise reduction, and
 > more. It is my first digital cam and I like it a lot. a bit bulky
 > because of the 10x optical zoom lens, and it take 4 batteries, which
 > you said you didn't like. However, you can get a set of NiMH batteries
 > with charger for like $10 at Wal-Mart (here in California), so I
always
 > keep a spare set handy. That price is a steal, IMO. If you want
 > something that fits into your pocket, however, this one is not the way
 > to go. And it only takes xD flash, which is expensive.

I'm in Toronto, Canada and have never seen Olympus C-755 advertised
here. We don't get all the models you get in the US and many digital
cameras here, cost more than in the US, especially when they are newly
out. You have more competition so brings the prices down. You also have
more variety. But cameras can quite often be found here on sale at good
prices. You just have to keep looking. I might see the Olympus model you
mention, especially if its new. I didn't want 4 batteries if possible,
but I don't rule it out completely. The Canon A75 sells here for a good
price so I am considering it. Thanks.

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  > >But many will be indoors, so I want to try to get one with not much
red
  > >eye, though I notice many seem to have that problem. I look at many
 >
 > They all have red-eye problems. There are only three ways around
red-eye:

yes, I know they all have red eye, but some seem to be worse than others
in that regard.

 > 1. Don't use a flash. (This is my preferred method.)
 >
 > 2. Use a flash far enough away from the lens. (You can't usually do
 > this with P&S cameras, unless you use a slave, and that takes a
 > lot of work.)
 >
 > 3. Fix the red-eye after you take the picture. (I've found that a #2
 > pencil is perfect for coloring out red-eye.)

It would seem to me that No.2 or 3 is the best choice. I can't see that
using a pencil would be too good an option, but thats just my opinion. I
want to mainly use a digital camera for getting stills printed and very
occasionally to send email attachment.

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"Cathy" <not.RemoveThis@there.com> wrote:
 > "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel.RemoveThis@exc.com> wrote...
  >>
   >> >But many will be indoors, so I want to try to get one with not
   >> >much red eye, though I notice many seem to have that problem. I
   >> >look at many
  >>
  >> They all have red-eye problems. There are only three ways around
  >> red-eye:
 >
 > yes, I know they all have red eye, but some seem to be worse than
 > others in that regard.
 >
  >> 1. Don't use a flash. (This is my preferred method.)
  >>
  >> 2. Use a flash far enough away from the lens. (You can't usually
  >> do this with P&S cameras, unless you use a slave, and that takes a
  >> lot of work.)
  >>
  >> 3. Fix the red-eye after you take the picture. (I've found that a
  >> #2 pencil is perfect for coloring out red-eye.)
 >
 > It would seem to me that No.2 or 3 is the best choice. I can't see
 > that using a pencil would be too good an option, but thats just my
 > opinion. I want to mainly use a digital camera for getting stills
 > printed and very occasionally to send email attachment.

Future Shop has HP M407 4.1 Mp for C$199.99 after mail-in rebate - I
bought one from Staples at Christmas and am quite satisfied with it.

I do most of my photo cropping and brightness/contrast adjustment with
Irfanview - free, and easy to use. It even removes red eye. I get my
4x6 prints at Wal-Mart for $0.25 each.

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 > "Cathy" <not.TakeThisOut@there.com> wrote:
  > > "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel.TakeThisOut@exc.com> wrote...
   > >>
   > >> >But many will be indoors, so I want to try to get one with not
   > >> >much red eye, though I notice many seem to have that problem. I
   > >> >look at many
   > >>
   > >> They all have red-eye problems. There are only three ways around
   > >> red-eye:
  > >
  > > yes, I know they all have red eye, but some seem to be worse than
  > > others in that regard.
  > >
   > >> 1. Don't use a flash. (This is my preferred method.)
   > >>
   > >> 2. Use a flash far enough away from the lens. (You can't usually
   > >> do this with P&S cameras, unless you use a slave, and that takes a
   > >> lot of work.)
   > >>
   > >> 3. Fix the red-eye after you take the picture. (I've found that a
   > >> #2 pencil is perfect for coloring out red-eye.)
  > >
  > > It would seem to me that No.2 or 3 is the best choice. I can't see
  > > that using a pencil would be too good an option, but thats just my
  > > opinion. I want to mainly use a digital camera for getting stills
  > > printed and very occasionally to send email attachment.
 >
 > Future Shop has HP M407 4.1 Mp for C$199.99 after mail-in rebate - I
 > bought one from Staples at Christmas and am quite satisfied with it.

Are you in Toronto? Its funny you should mention the HP M407. The HP
M307 was the very first digital camera I looked at a few months ago It
was at Staples. It was the 3 MP version out just before the M407.
Both the M307 and M407 are pretty cheap here in Toronto. Around $199.00
Can. I have never seen them with a rebate, though I guess it was there
when you bought yours. I've looked for reviews for both those cameras a
few times in the last few months, but only recently saw one for the M407
and it seemed to give mixed opinions. And as I mentioned, I mainly want
a digital camera for 4X 6 prints, many being indoors, though some
outside as well.

How is red eye in the M407 for indoor flash shots? some smaller cameras
seem to have weak flashes for indoors unless quite a small room and
small group.
It seems that the HP M307 and M407 seems to have been largely ignored by
camera reviewers as I would have liked to see some screen shots of the
photo quality, especially an indoor shot of someone. Because of not
being able to see any reviews, I kind of forgot about the M307/M407 till
you reminded me about it now. I know there is also M607 and M707, and
they are reasonable prices as well, but with the M607, I notice HP went
back to a 1.5" LCD which is too small for me.
Most are coming out with bigger LCD's now. I also notice that Canon A75
and A85 are getting quite a lot cheaper, though not as cheap as the HP
M407.

 > I do most of my photo cropping and brightness/contrast adjustment with
 > Irfanview - free, and easy to use. It even removes red eye. I get my
 > 4x6 prints at Wal-Mart for $0.25 each.

Is the .25 cents Canadian or US $ ?

I have used Irfanview for a long time, mainly for scanning 4X6 photos.
Its a very good program.
My 35 mm camera doesn' have a red eye problem so never noticed that
feature on Irfanview.
But your comment about Irfanview gives me more hope not to worry so much
about red eye.
Any other information you might want to offer on what kind of shots you
have taken on the M407 would be appreciated. Did you get the dock with
your camera? Is the video any good?

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"Cathy" <not.TakeThisOut@there.com> wrote:
 > "MartinS" <me.TakeThisOut@my.place> wrote...
  >> "Cathy" <not.TakeThisOut@there.com> wrote:
   >> > "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel.TakeThisOut@exc.com> wrote...
   >> >>
   >> >> >But many will be indoors, so I want to try to get one with not
   >> >> >much red eye, though I notice many seem to have that problem. I
   >> >> >look at many
   >> >>
   >> >> They all have red-eye problems. There are only three ways
   >> >> around red-eye:
   >> >
   >> > yes, I know they all have red eye, but some seem to be worse than
   >> > others in that regard.
   >> >
   >> >> 1. Don't use a flash. (This is my preferred method.)
   >> >>
   >> >> 2. Use a flash far enough away from the lens. (You can't
   >> >> usually do this with P&S cameras, unless you use a slave, and
   >> >> that takes a lot of work.)
   >> >>
   >> >> 3. Fix the red-eye after you take the picture. (I've found
   >> >> that a #2 pencil is perfect for coloring out red-eye.)
   >> >
   >> > It would seem to me that No.2 or 3 is the best choice. I can't
   >> > see that using a pencil would be too good an option, but thats
   >> > just my opinion. I want to mainly use a digital camera for
   >> > getting stills printed and very occasionally to send email
   >> > attachment.
  >>
  >> Future Shop has HP M407 4.1 Mp for C$199.99 after mail-in rebate -
  >> I bought one from Staples at Christmas and am quite satisfied with
  >> it.
 >
 > Are you in Toronto? Its funny you should mention the HP M407. The HP
 > M307 was the very first digital camera I looked at a few months ago
 > It was at Staples. It was the 3 MP version out just before the M407.
 > Both the M307 and M407 are pretty cheap here in Toronto. Around
 > $199.00 Can. I have never seen them with a rebate, though I guess it
 > was there when you bought yours. I've looked for reviews for both
 > those cameras a few times in the last few months, but only recently
 > saw one for the M407 and it seemed to give mixed opinions. And as I
 > mentioned, I mainly want a digital camera for 4X 6 prints, many
 > being indoors, though some outside as well.
 >
 > How is red eye in the M407 for indoor flash shots? some smaller
 > cameras seem to have weak flashes for indoors unless quite a small
 > room and small group.
 > It seems that the HP M307 and M407 seems to have been largely
 > ignored by camera reviewers as I would have liked to see some screen
 > shots of the photo quality, especially an indoor shot of someone.
 > Because of not being able to see any reviews, I kind of forgot about
 > the M307/M407 till you reminded me about it now. I know there is
 > also M607 and M707, and they are reasonable prices as well, but with
 > the M607, I notice HP went back to a 1.5" LCD which is too small for
 > me. Most are coming out with bigger LCD's now. I also notice that
 > Canon A75 and A85 are getting quite a lot cheaper, though not as
 > cheap as the HP M407.
 >
  >> I do most of my photo cropping and brightness/contrast adjustment
  >> with Irfanview - free, and easy to use. It even removes red eye. I
  >> get my 4x6 prints at Wal-Mart for $0.25 each.
 >
 > Is the .25 cents Canadian or US $ ?
 >
 > I have used Irfanview for a long time, mainly for scanning 4X6
 > photos. Its a very good program.
 > My 35 mm camera doesn' have a red eye problem so never noticed that
 > feature on Irfanview.
 > But your comment about Irfanview gives me more hope not to worry so
 > much about red eye.
 > Any other information you might want to offer on what kind of shots
 > you have taken on the M407 would be appreciated. Did you get the
 > dock with your camera? Is the video any good?
 >
 > Cathy

I've also wondered why HP cameras don't seem to get much of a mention.

Sorry I can't give you a great deal of help, as I haven't made a whole
lot of use of it yet - mostly indoor baby photos. I try to use bright
room light and avoid the flash; the flash is quite close to the lens. I
didn't buy the dock - I find the USB cable is fine, and I use a
separate charger for NiMH batteries. It's compact and takes 2xAAs, but
it uses them up fairly quickly. I haven't tried the video feature, as I
also have a digital video camera. I bought the 407 because it seemed a
good bargain for a 4Mp with 3x optical zoom. I previously bought an HP
318 3 or 4 years ago - C$300 for 2Mp and only 2x digital zoom.

The Wal-Mart Canada digital photo service is pretty good; $0.25 for
4x6, $0.99 for 5x7 (even cheaper at Sam's Club). You can upload your
photos to the website, or take them into the store on your memory card
or a CD-R/RW. BTW, I'm about 100km from Toronto.

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 > "Cathy" <not RemoveThis @there.com> wrote:

<snip>

 > I've also wondered why HP cameras don't seem to get much of a mention.
 >
 > Sorry I can't give you a great deal of help, as I haven't made a whole
 > lot of use of it yet - mostly indoor baby photos. I try to use bright
 > room light and avoid the flash; the flash is quite close to the lens.

Did your baby have red eye? I guess with a baby, you don't want to
use the flash much. My kids never liked the flash going off. Actually, I
don't like it myself. If you have enough light you don't need the flash,
but I seem to always need it for indoors. I thought I read that its
better not to have the flash too close to the lens.

 > I didn't buy the dock - I find the USB cable is fine, and I use a
 > separate charger for NiMH batteries.

Thats probably the best way. You don't really need the dock. I use Win
98SE and have a separate partition for Win 2000 Pro. What OS do you use?

It's compact and takes 2xAAs, but
 > it uses them up fairly quickly. I haven't tried the video feature, as
I
 > also have a digital video camera. I bought the 407 because it seemed a
 > good bargain for a 4Mp with 3x optical zoom. I previously bought an HP
 > 318 3 or 4 years ago - C$300 for 2Mp and only 2x digital zoom.

The HP 307 and M407 are selling in Toronto at around $200.00 Can. so
very cheap prices as long as they take good photos of course. If I was
getting any of those, I would get the M407 as it is very similar to the
M307, only its 4 MP's. So I am swayed back to considering it again.
How do the pictures turn out? are they clear and sharp, even the indoor
ones?

 > The Wal-Mart Canada digital photo service is pretty good; $0.25 for
 > 4x6, $0.99 for 5x7 (even cheaper at Sam's Club). You can upload your
 > photos to the website, or take them into the store on your memory card
 > or a CD-R/RW. BTW, I'm about 100km from Toronto.

I have a Walmart near me where I sometimes make 4X6 prints from my 35
mm. There is no Sams club near me.

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"Cathy" <not.RemoveThis@there.com> wrote:
 > "MartinS" <me.RemoveThis@my.place> wrote...
  >> "Cathy" <not.RemoveThis@there.com> wrote:
 >
 > <snip>
 >
  >> I've also wondered why HP cameras don't seem to get much of a
  >> mention.
  >>
  >> Sorry I can't give you a great deal of help, as I haven't made a
  >> whole lot of use of it yet - mostly indoor baby photos. I try to
  >> use bright room light and avoid the flash; the flash is quite close
  >> to the lens.
 >
 > Did your baby have red eye? I guess with a baby, you don't want
 > to use the flash much. My kids never liked the flash going off.
 > Actually, I don't like it myself. If you have enough light you don't
 > need the flash, but I seem to always need it for indoors. I thought
 > I read that its better not to have the flash too close to the lens.

I've had red eye on a couple of closeups (my grandson, BTW).

  >> I didn't buy the dock - I find the USB cable is fine, and I use a
  >> separate charger for NiMH batteries.
 >
 > Thats probably the best way. You don't really need the dock. I use
 > Win 98SE and have a separate partition for Win 2000 Pro. What OS do
 > you use?

Recently upgraded to WinXP Pro - much more stable than 98.

 > It's compact and takes 2xAAs, but
  >> it uses them up fairly quickly. I haven't tried the video feature,
  >> as I also have a digital video camera. I bought the 407 because it
  >> seemed a good bargain for a 4Mp with 3x optical zoom. I previously
  >> bought an HP 318 3 or 4 years ago - C$300 for 2Mp and only 2x
  >> digital zoom.
 >
 > The HP 307 and M407 are selling in Toronto at around $200.00 Can. so
 > very cheap prices as long as they take good photos of course. If I
 > was getting any of those, I would get the M407 as it is very similar
 > to the M307, only its 4 MP's. So I am swayed back to considering it
 > again. How do the pictures turn out? are they clear and sharp, even
 > the indoor ones?

Plenty good enough for 4x6, as long as the focus is good to start with.
I haven't done any direct comparison with other cameras.

  >> The Wal-Mart Canada digital photo service is pretty good; $0.25 for
  >> 4x6, $0.99 for 5x7 (even cheaper at Sam's Club). You can upload
  >> your photos to the website, or take them into the store on your
  >> memory card or a CD-R/RW. BTW, I'm about 100km from Toronto.
 >
 > I have a Walmart near me where I sometimes make 4X6 prints from my
 > 35 mm. There is no Sams club near me.

Good luck!

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MartinS wrote:
 > "Cathy" <not.TakeThisOut@there.com> wrote:
  >> "MartinS" <me.TakeThisOut@my.place> wrote...
   >>> "Cathy" <not.TakeThisOut@there.com> wrote:
  >>
  >> <snip>
  >>
   >>> I've also wondered why HP cameras don't seem to get much of a
   >>> mention.
   >>>
   >>> Sorry I can't give you a great deal of help, as I haven't made a
   >>> whole lot of use of it yet - mostly indoor baby photos. I try to
   >>> use bright room light and avoid the flash; the flash is quite close
   >>> to the lens.
  >>
  >> Did your baby have red eye? I guess with a baby, you don't want
  >> to use the flash much. My kids never liked the flash going off.
  >> Actually, I don't like it myself. If you have enough light you don't
  >> need the flash, but I seem to always need it for indoors. I thought
  >> I read that its better not to have the flash too close to the lens.
 >
 > I've had red eye on a couple of closeups (my grandson, BTW).
 >
   >>> I didn't buy the dock - I find the USB cable is fine, and I use a
   >>> separate charger for NiMH batteries.
  >>
  >> Thats probably the best way. You don't really need the dock. I use
  >> Win 98SE and have a separate partition for Win 2000 Pro. What OS do
  >> you use?
 >
 > Recently upgraded to WinXP Pro - much more stable than 98.
 >
  >> It's compact and takes 2xAAs, but
   >>> it uses them up fairly quickly. I haven't tried the video feature,
   >>> as I also have a digital video camera. I bought the 407 because it
   >>> seemed a good bargain for a 4Mp with 3x optical zoom. I previously
   >>> bought an HP 318 3 or 4 years ago - C$300 for 2Mp and only 2x
   >>> digital zoom.
  >>
  >> The HP 307 and M407 are selling in Toronto at around $200.00 Can. so
  >> very cheap prices as long as they take good photos of course. If I
  >> was getting any of those, I would get the M407 as it is very similar
  >> to the M307, only its 4 MP's. So I am swayed back to considering it
  >> again. How do the pictures turn out? are they clear and sharp, even
  >> the indoor ones?
 >
 > Plenty good enough for 4x6, as long as the focus is good to start
 > with. I haven't done any direct comparison with other cameras.
 >
   >>> The Wal-Mart Canada digital photo service is pretty good; $0.25 for
   >>> 4x6, $0.99 for 5x7 (even cheaper at Sam's Club). You can upload
   >>> your photos to the website, or take them into the store on your
   >>> memory card or a CD-R/RW. BTW, I'm about 100km from Toronto.
  >>
  >> I have a Walmart near me where I sometimes make 4X6 prints from my
  >> 35 mm. There is no Sams club near me.
 >

Slightly off-topic: my wife went to a party and handed out a half-dozen
one-time-use cameras. Collected and submitted to Costco for
develop/print, they each yielded 27 or 28 images. We requested two each
5x7 prints. Cost per envelope was $6.99 = ~ $ 0.13 per 5x7 print. My
intuitive estimate is that about half were "good" party pictures, and
that very few were not worth looking at.

Not all photography is necessarily high-tech.


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 > MartinS wrote:
  > > "Cathy" <not.DeleteThis@there.com> wrote:
   > >> "MartinS" <me.DeleteThis@my.place> wrote...
   > >>> "Cathy" <not.DeleteThis@there.com> wrote:
   > >>
   > >> <snip>
   > >>
   > >>> I've also wondered why HP cameras don't seem to get much of a
   > >>> mention.
   > >>>
   > >>> Sorry I can't give you a great deal of help, as I haven't made a
   > >>> whole lot of use of it yet - mostly indoor baby photos. I try to
   > >>> use bright room light and avoid the flash; the flash is quite
close
   > >>> to the lens.
   > >>
   > >> Did your baby have red eye? I guess with a baby, you don't want
   > >> to use the flash much. My kids never liked the flash going off.
   > >> Actually, I don't like it myself. If you have enough light you
don't
   > >> need the flash, but I seem to always need it for indoors. I thought
   > >> I read that its better not to have the flash too close to the lens.
  > >
  > > I've had red eye on a couple of closeups (my grandson, BTW).
  > >
   > >>> I didn't buy the dock - I find the USB cable is fine, and I use a
   > >>> separate charger for NiMH batteries.
   > >>
   > >> Thats probably the best way. You don't really need the dock. I use
   > >> Win 98SE and have a separate partition for Win 2000 Pro. What OS do
   > >> you use?
  > >
  > > Recently upgraded to WinXP Pro - much more stable than 98.
  > >
   > >> It's compact and takes 2xAAs, but
   > >>> it uses them up fairly quickly. I haven't tried the video feature,
   > >>> as I also have a digital video camera. I bought the 407 because it
   > >>> seemed a good bargain for a 4Mp with 3x optical zoom. I previously
   > >>> bought an HP 318 3 or 4 years ago - C$300 for 2Mp and only 2x
   > >>> digital zoom.
   > >>
   > >> The HP 307 and M407 are selling in Toronto at around $200.00 Can.
so
   > >> very cheap prices as long as they take good photos of course. If I
   > >> was getting any of those, I would get the M407 as it is very
similar
   > >> to the M307, only its 4 MP's. So I am swayed back to considering it
   > >> again. How do the pictures turn out? are they clear and sharp, even
   > >> the indoor ones?
  > >
  > > Plenty good enough for 4x6, as long as the focus is good to start
  > > with. I haven't done any direct comparison with other cameras.
  > >
   > >>> The Wal-Mart Canada digital photo service is pretty good; $0.25
for
   > >>> 4x6, $0.99 for 5x7 (even cheaper at Sam's Club). You can upload
   > >>> your photos to the website, or take them into the store on your
   > >>> memory card or a CD-R/RW. BTW, I'm about 100km from Toronto.
   > >>
   > >> I have a Walmart near me where I sometimes make 4X6 prints from my
   > >> 35 mm. There is no Sams club near me.
  > >
 >
 > Slightly off-topic: my wife went to a party and handed out a
half-dozen
 > one-time-use cameras. Collected and submitted to Costco for
 > develop/print, they each yielded 27 or 28 images. We requested two
each
 > 5x7 prints. Cost per envelope was $6.99 = ~ $ 0.13 per 5x7 print. My
 > intuitive estimate is that about half were "good" party pictures, and
 > that very few were not worth looking at.
 >
 > Not all photography is necessarily high-tech.

Frank, that is quite true. A while back, a friend showed me some pics of
their new house, mostly taken outside, and the pics were beautiful. Some
of the nicest photos I've ever seen. I was amazed at the quality and
great colors. I thought she must have taken them with some expensive
camera and asked her what kind of camera she had. I thought she was
kidding when she said it was a Fuji one time use camera.

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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:30:06 -0500, "Cathy" <not.DeleteThis@there.com> wrote:

 >Hi all,
 >I've been looking for the last few months for a digital camera in stores
 >and read tons and tons of reviews, and now am confused as to what I
 >should get.

Check out the Pentax Optio line. (I have no connection with Pentax
other than being a user since 1970.)



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 > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:30:06 -0500, "Cathy" <not DeleteThis @there.com> wrote:
 >
  > >Hi all,
  > >I've been looking for the last few months for a digital camera in
stores
  > >and read tons and tons of reviews, and now am confused as to what I
  > >should get.
 >
 > Check out the Pentax Optio line. (I have no connection with Pentax
 > other than being a user since 1970.)

Thanks. I will check it out.

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For some more information about the CanonA75 look also in the reactions at
"How many pixels"



"Cathy" <not.DeleteThis@there.com> schreef in bericht
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 > "The PhAnToM" <victorthecleaner.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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  > >
  > > Cathy wrote:
   > > > Hi all,
   > > > I've been looking for the last few months for a digital camera in
  > > stores
   > > > and read tons and tons of reviews, and now am confused as to what I
   > > > should get.
  > >
  > > A guy at work just bought an Olympus C-755 for $250 at Fry's (or maybe
  > > he got it through Outpost.com). 4Mp, 10x optical zoom, the flash works
  > > fine, and has the capability of taking an aftermarket flash unit,
  > > red-eye reduction mode, many preset modes (outdoor, portrait, low
  > > light, action, etc.), "manual" mode for adjusting shutter speed,
  > > aperture, ISO... delay timer (useful for including one's self in the
  > > picture if no one else is around), movie mode, noise reduction, and
  > > more. It is my first digital cam and I like it a lot. a bit bulky
  > > because of the 10x optical zoom lens, and it take 4 batteries, which
  > > you said you didn't like. However, you can get a set of NiMH batteries
  > > with charger for like $10 at Wal-Mart (here in California), so I
 > always
  > > keep a spare set handy. That price is a steal, IMO. If you want
  > > something that fits into your pocket, however, this one is not the way
  > > to go. And it only takes xD flash, which is expensive.
 >
 > I'm in Toronto, Canada and have never seen Olympus C-755 advertised
 > here. We don't get all the models you get in the US and many digital
 > cameras here, cost more than in the US, especially when they are newly
 > out. You have more competition so brings the prices down. You also have
 > more variety. But cameras can quite often be found here on sale at good
 > prices. You just have to keep looking. I might see the Olympus model you
 > mention, especially if its new. I didn't want 4 batteries if possible,
 > but I don't rule it out completely. The Canon A75 sells here for a good
 > price so I am considering it. Thanks.
 >
 > Cathy
 >
 >
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