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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:37 am
Post subject: Re: used digital slr bodies [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Steven Green <steven.green30 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote:
> I just took a field trip to the local "Best" buy today to get a feel for
> the cameras. I will admit, up until holding the Sony, I was leaning
> heavily toward it because I liked the Zeiss lenses I had for my Contax.
> The a700 felt like a cheap plastic toy without a lens mounted on it.
Put a lens on it. Inquire if a battery grip/portrait format
grip is available --- they can help a lot.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:22 am
Post subject: Re: used digital slr bodies [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Steven Green wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:23:29 +0100, Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
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>> Steven Green <steven.green30 DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote:
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>>> Any thoughts or experiences purchasing used digital bodies?
>> Handle the body first, see if that model fits your hand and eye.
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>> Remember that just _one_ bad bargain is liable to set you back much more
>> than buying everything at a reputable local brick-and-mortar store
>> compared to all bargain ...
>>
>> -Wolfgang
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> I just took a field trip to the local "Best" buy today to get a feel for
> the cameras. I will admit, up until holding the Sony, I was leaning
> heavily toward it because I liked the Zeiss lenses I had for my Contax.
> The a700 felt like a cheap plastic toy without a lens mounted on it.
>
Steve, it ain't - the skin is plastic, and bounces reasonably well,
inside the front skeleton is magnesium alloy. It has no back underframe,
unlike the D300, but that has no effect on the critical tolerances and
strength of the camera.
Your Contax Aria feels like cheap plastic if you try a Contax ST instead
- metal and don't you know it!
You will not find any DSLR which feels much different to the A700 unless
you buy something which is heavier and more solid because it's huge and
expensive. The Nikon D300 is probably as good as you get for heft and
reassurance, but in fact, it is no more 'solid' than an A700, 5D, 40D or
whatever. They are all skinned in plastic because it does the job very well.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:12 pm
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"David Kilpatrick" <iconmags3 RemoveThis @btconnect.com> wrote in message
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> Steven Green wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:23:29 +0100, Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>>
>>> Steven Green <steven.green30 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any thoughts or experiences purchasing used digital bodies?
>>> Handle the body first, see if that model fits your hand and eye.
>>>
>>> Remember that just _one_ bad bargain is liable to set you back much more
>>> than buying everything at a reputable local brick-and-mortar store
>>> compared to all bargain ...
>>>
>>> -Wolfgang
>>
>> I just took a field trip to the local "Best" buy today to get a feel for
>> the cameras. I will admit, up until holding the Sony, I was leaning
>> heavily toward it because I liked the Zeiss lenses I had for my Contax.
>> The a700 felt like a cheap plastic toy without a lens mounted on it.
>>
>
>
> Steve, it ain't - the skin is plastic, and bounces reasonably well, inside
> the front skeleton is magnesium alloy. It has no back underframe, unlike
> the D300, but that has no effect on the critical tolerances and strength
> of the camera.
>
> Your Contax Aria feels like cheap plastic if you try a Contax ST instead -
> metal and don't you know it!
>
> You will not find any DSLR which feels much different to the A700 unless
> you buy something which is heavier and more solid because it's huge and
> expensive. The Nikon D300 is probably as good as you get for heft and
> reassurance, but in fact, it is no more 'solid' than an A700, 5D, 40D or
> whatever. They are all skinned in plastic because it does the job very
> well.
>
> David
There you go again with the BS "weasel words" touted as gospel from the
pulpit with sweeping generalizations.
Let's see your specific testing which proves: "that has no effect on the
critical tolerances and
strength of the camera"
and: "in fact, it is no more 'solid' than an A700, 5D, 40D or
whatever."
Me thinks your well known agenda against heft and solidity influences your
pronouncements (or "literary license", if you prefer) more than facts.
You are free to PROVE me wrong, of course.
Bob >> Stay informed about: used digital slr bodies |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:50 pm
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:22:09 +0000, David Kilpatrick wrote:
> Steven Green wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:23:29 +0100, Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>>
>>> Steven Green <steven.green30 DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any thoughts or experiences purchasing used digital bodies?
>>> Handle the body first, see if that model fits your hand and eye.
>>>
>>> Remember that just _one_ bad bargain is liable to set you back much
>>> more than buying everything at a reputable local brick-and-mortar
>>> store compared to all bargain ...
>>>
>>> -Wolfgang
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>> I just took a field trip to the local "Best" buy today to get a feel
>> for the cameras. I will admit, up until holding the Sony, I was leaning
>> heavily toward it because I liked the Zeiss lenses I had for my Contax.
>> The a700 felt like a cheap plastic toy without a lens mounted on it.
>>
>>
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> Steve, it ain't - the skin is plastic, and bounces reasonably well,
> inside the front skeleton is magnesium alloy. It has no back underframe,
> unlike the D300, but that has no effect on the critical tolerances and
> strength of the camera.
>
> Your Contax Aria feels like cheap plastic if you try a Contax ST instead
> - metal and don't you know it!
>
> You will not find any DSLR which feels much different to the A700 unless
> you buy something which is heavier and more solid because it's huge and
> expensive. The Nikon D300 is probably as good as you get for heft and
> reassurance, but in fact, it is no more 'solid' than an A700, 5D, 40D or
> whatever. They are all skinned in plastic because it does the job very
> well.
>
> David
I don't doubt that the cameras, under their skins, are tight, but having
the cameras in hand I liked the Nikon over the Canon and Sony. The Canon
just felt like plastic, while the Nikon had a feel I more preferred. For
the price-point I would figure that the cameras were equal in build and
solidity. Since the D300 is less expensive than the 5D I would have
expected my impressions to be reversed.
I still expect to head the Canon route, but the Nikon made a good
impression.
Steve >> Stay informed about: used digital slr bodies |
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