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Martin Willett

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(Msg. 31) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:29 pm
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Richard C. wrote:
> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org DeleteThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>> Richard C. wrote:
>>> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org DeleteThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> So why the violent reaction then? It is a breaking of the contract
>>>> you deny making: I'll show you mine if you show me yours. No other
>>>> explanation for this behaviour holds water. It has to be seen as
>>>> "cheating", somebody has gained the benefit without paying the price
>>>> and should be punished, humiliated and made to feel small.
>>>> --
>>> ==================================
>>> It is a violation of peoples privacy in order to make people like you
>>> happy.
>>>
>>> Such videos only show up on voyeaur web sites
>>> and display your breast web sites.
>>> I take PLENTY of pictures, but everyone in them
>>> KNOWS their picture is being taken.
>>>
>>> The fact that you cannot understand such things shows
>>> why we are busting your balls!
>>> =====================================
>>
>> How can you have a right to privacy when you are voluntarily in public
>> naked?
>>
>> "You can't take my picture this is a free country!" I have always
>> found that argument absurd. If you are in a private place then things
>> are very different but in public is in public, it does not matter what
>> kind of people are around you.
>>
>> If you are in a public place you have no right to determine who can
>> look at you or what they think, or say, when they do.
>>
> =================================
> He said NUDIST RESORT!
> That would indicate it is NOT public property.

Would it? What a backward country you must live in!
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:07 pm
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"Martin Willett" <mwillett.org.TakeThisOut@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Richard C. wrote:
>> =================================
>> He said NUDIST RESORT!
>> That would indicate it is NOT public property.
>
> Would it? What a backward country you must live in!
> --
Pardon? in what country is a nudist resort public property?

David.

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:07 pm
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Martin Willett <mwillett.org DeleteThis @invalid.invalid> writes:
> To me the word resort means town or village dominated by the tourist
> industry.

I would say some tourist resorts are public like that; others, like
Disneyland, are entirely private.
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Martin Willett

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(Msg. 34) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:26 pm
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Richard C. wrote:
> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org.DeleteThis@invalid.invalid> wrote in message .
>>
>> In civilized parts of the world you can go naked or not and nobody
>> will berate you or cast doubt on your morality either way.
>>
> ======================
> That would be my ideal!
>
> Clothing optional EVERYWHERE!
> Help us campaign for that among your textile comrades, will you?

Get lost. The majority don't want that everywhere and never will.


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Martin Willett

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(Msg. 35) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:30 pm
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David Looser wrote:
> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org RemoveThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:545r64F1vohmsU2@mid.individual.net...
>> Richard C. wrote:
>>> =================================
>>> He said NUDIST RESORT!
>>> That would indicate it is NOT public property.
>> Would it? What a backward country you must live in!
>> --
> Pardon? in what country is a nudist resort public property?

To me the word resort means town or village dominated by the tourist
industry. For example St Moritz is a ski resort

http://www.stmoritz.ch/home-002-00-en.htm

Blackpool is a seaside resort

http://www.blackpooltourism.com/

Las Vegas is a gambling resort

Ah. But apparently although the phrase nudist resort is used it doesn't
mean what people might think it means, nudism can't take care of itself.
"Nudist resorts" are just overgrown private campsites rather than
natural open public communities which welcome naturists.

How sad. My world has become a little greyer.

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Richard C.

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(Msg. 36) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:36 pm
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"Martin Willett" <mwillett.org.DeleteThis@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Richard C. wrote:
>> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org.DeleteThis@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:545uheF1v5hq4U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Richard C. wrote:
>>>> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org.DeleteThis@invalid.invalid> wrote in message .
>>>>>
>>>>> In civilized parts of the world you can go naked or not and nobody
>>>>> will berate you or cast doubt on your morality either way.
>>>>>
>>>> ======================
>>>> That would be my ideal!
>>>>
>>>> Clothing optional EVERYWHERE!
>>>> Help us campaign for that among your textile comrades, will you?
>>>
>>> Get lost. The majority don't want that everywhere and never will.
>>>
>> ==============================
>> Then why did you make that statement?
>> I guess you do not know your own mind.
>>
>> I did not alter your text above. It is your wording.
>
> I did not intend to suggest that was the case everywhere, just that there
> are places which are public, not private, where people can go naked if
> they choose to or can wear clothes if they choose to. That is sensible.
>
> Extending the right to go about naked to everywhere is not sensible and
> would not be welcomed by millions of people who are happy to allow people
> to be nude in certain places where they can be avoided by those who want
> to avoid them.
> --
==============================
But that is not what you said.
I agree 100% with your original words.
You appear to waffle and back off and change what you said.
Typical of a textile.
============================
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J. Clarke

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(Msg. 37) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:48 pm
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:48:56 -0000, "Terry J. Wood"
<TerryJWood RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>Martin Willett <mwillett.org RemoveThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in news:54629iF1uph6sU1
>@mid.individual.net:
>
>> How sad. My world has become a little greyer.
>
>Resorts are usually owned by someone or groups of people (nudist club).
>
>It's pretty rare that people are allowed to be nude IN PUBLIC. It is sad,
>but that's the way the US of A works. I never realized, until now, how
>this must affect those who want to publish nudist pictures on their textile
>web sites.

Why would one want to publish nudist pictures on a web site dealing
with cloth? Or do you mean something else when you write "textile"?
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Terry J. Wood

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(Msg. 38) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:42 pm
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"Pat" <groups.RemoveThis@artisticphotography.us> wrote in
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> OTOH, you can not take that picture and post it to
> your website for commercial purposes without the person's permission.
> However in the circumstances of this post, one would have great
> concerns about commercial exploitation -- even of background subjects
> -- whereas in most other circumstances one would not.

It would probably be smart to get a signed release before using a photo on
a web site. Especially a nude.
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Terry J. Wood

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(Msg. 39) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:44 pm
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Martin Willett <mwillett.org RemoveThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in news:545r64F1vohmsU2
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> Would it? What a backward country you must live in!

Yeah, it makes it more difficult for immature textiles who want to sneak a
peak at a nude body. We make them come to the nudist resort if they want
to do that.

They could hire a model if they want to take nudes, of course. I don't
know why they want to take pictures of nudists FOR FREE. Perhaps the web
sites are just CHEAP?
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:48 pm
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Martin Willett <mwillett.org DeleteThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in news:54629iF1uph6sU1
@mid.individual.net:

> How sad. My world has become a little greyer.

Resorts are usually owned by someone or groups of people (nudist club).

It's pretty rare that people are allowed to be nude IN PUBLIC. It is sad,
but that's the way the US of A works. I never realized, until now, how
this must affect those who want to publish nudist pictures on their textile
web sites.

I've shot hundreds of nudes, but only a few of them were nudists. Most of
the "public" nudes I've shot were out side of the US of A, in Jamaica.
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Martin Willett

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(Msg. 41) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:30 pm
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Richard C. wrote:
> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org DeleteThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:545uheF1v5hq4U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Richard C. wrote:
>>> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org DeleteThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in message .
>>>>
>>>> In civilized parts of the world you can go naked or not and nobody
>>>> will berate you or cast doubt on your morality either way.
>>>>
>>> ======================
>>> That would be my ideal!
>>>
>>> Clothing optional EVERYWHERE!
>>> Help us campaign for that among your textile comrades, will you?
>>
>> Get lost. The majority don't want that everywhere and never will.
>>
> ==============================
> Then why did you make that statement?
> I guess you do not know your own mind.
>
> I did not alter your text above. It is your wording.

I did not intend to suggest that was the case everywhere, just that
there are places which are public, not private, where people can go
naked if they choose to or can wear clothes if they choose to. That is
sensible.

Extending the right to go about naked to everywhere is not sensible and
would not be welcomed by millions of people who are happy to allow
people to be nude in certain places where they can be avoided by those
who want to avoid them.
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:46 pm
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Terry J. Wood wrote:
> Martin Willett <mwillett.org.TakeThisOut@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:545r64F1vohmsU2
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> Would it? What a backward country you must live in!
>
> Yeah, it makes it more difficult for immature textiles who want to sneak a
> peak at a nude body. We make them come to the nudist resort if they want
> to do that.
>
> They could hire a model if they want to take nudes, of course. I don't
> know why they want to take pictures of nudists FOR FREE. Perhaps the web
> sites are just CHEAP?

The point of my site is for women who want to show their breasts or
bodies to the world to show their bodies to the world. How hard is that
to understand? How dare they do that without being social nudists? Are
they some kind of pervert? No, they want to show their bodies to normal
men who will appreciate looking at them not to men who practice not
being seen to appreciate them.

Is there any heterosexual man who is less fun to show your body to than
a nudist? Your brother or dad I suppose. Or a doctor.
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Terry J. Wood

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(Msg. 43) Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:19 pm
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Martin Willett <mwillett.org.DeleteThis@invalid.invalid> wrote in
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>> know why they want to take pictures of nudists FOR FREE. Perhaps the
>> web sites are just CHEAP?

> The point of my site is for women who want to show their breasts or
> bodies to the world to show their bodies to the world. How hard is
> that to understand?

Dream on, Martin.
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:56 am
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:46:57 +0000, Martin Willett
<mwillett.org RemoveThis @invalid.invalid> wrote:

>J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:48:56 -0000, "Terry J. Wood"
>> <TerryJWood RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Martin Willett <mwillett.org RemoveThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in news:54629iF1uph6sU1
>>> @mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> How sad. My world has become a little greyer.
>>> Resorts are usually owned by someone or groups of people (nudist club).
>>>
>>> It's pretty rare that people are allowed to be nude IN PUBLIC. It is sad,
>>> but that's the way the US of A works. I never realized, until now, how
>>> this must affect those who want to publish nudist pictures on their textile
>>> web sites.
>>
>> Why would one want to publish nudist pictures on a web site dealing
>> with cloth? Or do you mean something else when you write "textile"?
>
>Yes, it is an offensive term used to describe the majority of humanity
>who are not "non-sexual social nudists" like kafir is an offensive term
>for non-Muslims.

So I can safely dump any post containing "nudist" and "textile" down
the bit-bucket without fear of losing anything worth reading then.
Thank you.
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:20 am
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Richard C. wrote:
> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org RemoveThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:546jrtF1v70n9U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Richard C. wrote:
>>> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org RemoveThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:545uheF1v5hq4U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Richard C. wrote:
>>>>> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org RemoveThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in message .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In civilized parts of the world you can go naked or not and nobody
>>>>>> will berate you or cast doubt on your morality either way.
>>>>>>
>>>>> ======================
>>>>> That would be my ideal!
>>>>>
>>>>> Clothing optional EVERYWHERE!
>>>>> Help us campaign for that among your textile comrades, will you?
>>>>
>>>> Get lost. The majority don't want that everywhere and never will.
>>>>
>>> ==============================
>>> Then why did you make that statement?
>>> I guess you do not know your own mind.
>>>
>>> I did not alter your text above. It is your wording.
>>
>> I did not intend to suggest that was the case everywhere, just that
>> there are places which are public, not private, where people can go
>> naked if they choose to or can wear clothes if they choose to. That is
>> sensible.
>>
>> Extending the right to go about naked to everywhere is not sensible
>> and would not be welcomed by millions of people who are happy to allow
>> people to be nude in certain places where they can be avoided by those
>> who want to avoid them.
>> --
> ==============================
> But that is not what you said.
> I agree 100% with your original words.
> You appear to waffle and back off and change what you said.
> Typical of a textile.
> ============================

Typical textile behaviour includes composing symphonies, splitting
atoms, landing on the Moon, liberating Paris, building skyscrapers,
racing cars, curing disease, freeing slaves and running great nations.

Oh yes you can draw up a list of great nudists of the past and if you
read it off quickly it sounds impressive but it is less impressive than
the list of great left handers and less impressive than the list of
great right handed clothes wearers which nobody bothers to compile.

Another thing that bothers me is how often do you have to be nude to be
a nudist? Is skinny dipping twice in one decade enough?
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