Best digicam for spying at nude beach?

"Martin Willett" <mwillett.org RemoveThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> So why the violent reaction then? It is a breaking of the contract you
> deny making: I'll show you mine if you show me yours. No other explanation
> for this behaviour holds water. It has to be seen as "cheating", somebody
> has gained the benefit without paying the price and should be punished,
> humiliated and made to feel small.
> --
==================================
It is a violation of peoples privacy in order to make people like you happy.

Such videos only show up on voyeaur web sites
and display your breast web sites.
I take PLENTY of pictures, but everyone in them
KNOWS their picture is being taken.

The fact that you cannot understand such things shows
why we are busting your balls!
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Richard C. wrote:
> "Pat" <groups.TakeThisOut@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
> news:1172069669.859654.271820@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 20, 6:18 pm, Bili Hilshongrabist <b....TakeThisOut@frspw.net> wrote:
>>> Me and the missus were planning a trip to a nudist resort this spring
>>> and I
>>> wanted to get a good, high MP, concealable camera with long-distance
>>> optical zoom; any recs?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ummm, just where do you plan on concealing it???? Never mind, I
>> don't think I want to know.
>>
> ========================
> I know where it MIGHT end up being concealed:
>

Now this is what really puzzles me about nudists. You claim not to enjoy
looking (much) you deny ever getting erections and you say it's not
about you show me yours and I'll show you mine but if somebody looks
without being stripped you act as if you have been violated. Do you
really want to see his body naked? Why? Are you violated by being seen
naked? Why? Why are you not violated by being seen by somebody naked?
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Richard C. wrote:
> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org.DeleteThis@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:543rf0F1v30u6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Richard C. wrote:
>>> "Pat" <groups.DeleteThis@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
>>> news:1172069669.859654.271820@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Feb 20, 6:18 pm, Bili Hilshongrabist <b....DeleteThis@frspw.net> wrote:
>>>>> Me and the missus were planning a trip to a nudist resort this
>>>>> spring and I
>>>>> wanted to get a good, high MP, concealable camera with long-distance
>>>>> optical zoom; any recs?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ummm, just where do you plan on concealing it???? Never mind, I
>>>> don't think I want to know.
>>>>
>>> ========================
>>> I know where it MIGHT end up being concealed:
>>>
>>
>> Now this is what really puzzles me about nudists. You claim not to
>> enjoy looking (much) you deny ever getting erections and you say it's
>> not about you show me yours and I'll show you mine but if somebody
>> looks without being stripped you act as if you have been violated. Do
>> you really want to see his body naked? Why? Are you violated by being
>> seen naked? Why? Why are you not violated by being seen by somebody
>> naked?
>> --
>>
> ===========================
> I am not.

So why the violent reaction then? It is a breaking of the contract you
deny making: I'll show you mine if you show me yours. No other
explanation for this behaviour holds water. It has to be seen as
"cheating", somebody has gained the benefit without paying the price and
should be punished, humiliated and made to feel small.
--

Martin Willett


http://mwillett.org/

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for your guilt-free pleasure
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On 21 Feb 2007 06:54:29 -0800, "Pat" <groups DeleteThis @artisticphotography.us>
wrote:

>On Feb 20, 6:18 pm, Bili Hilshongrabist <b... DeleteThis @frspw.net> wrote:
>> Me and the missus were planning a trip to a nudist resort this spring and I
>> wanted to get a good, high MP, concealable camera with long-distance
>> optical zoom; any recs?
>
>
>
>Ummm, just where do you plan on concealing it???? Never mind, I
>don't think I want to know.

Oh, now that is funny! I can hardly type. Nice comeback, Pat.

(Apologies for the crosspost. HAND
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On Feb 22, 5:18 am, Martin Willett <mwillett.....RemoveThis@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
> Richard C. wrote:
> > "Martin Willett" <mwillett.....RemoveThis@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:5440dnF1ufndoU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> >> So why the violent reaction then? It is a breaking of the contract you
> >> deny making: I'll show you mine if you show me yours. No other
> >> explanation for this behaviour holds water. It has to be seen as
> >> "cheating", somebody has gained the benefit without paying the price
> >> and should be punished, humiliated and made to feel small.
> >> --
> > ==================================
> > It is a violation of peoples privacy in order to make people like you
> > happy.
>
> > Such videos only show up on voyeaur web sites
> > and display your breast web sites.
> > I take PLENTY of pictures, but everyone in them
> > KNOWS their picture is being taken.
>
> > The fact that you cannot understand such things shows
> > why we are busting your balls!
> > =====================================
>
> How can you have a right to privacy when you are voluntarily in public
> naked?
>
> "You can't take my picture this is a free country!" I have always found
> that argument absurd. If you are in a private place then things are very
> different but in public is in public, it does not matter what kind of
> people are around you.
>
> If you are in a public place you have no right to determine who can look
> at you or what they think, or say, when they do.
>
> --
>
> Martin Willett
>
> http://mwillett.org/
>
> Ultimate Naked Truth.Com
>
> http://ultimatenakedtruth.com/
>
> Bringing the world good clean nudity
> for your guilt-free pleasure

I don't want to get into the middle of your little cat-fight, but
there are limits on what pictures you can take in public. If you take
a picture and it's for your own use, that's probably okay in most
circumstances. OTOH, you can not take that picture and post it to
your website for commercial purposes without the person's permission.
However in the circumstances of this post, one would have great
concerns about commercial exploitation -- even of background subjects
-- whereas in most other circumstances one would not.

Secondly, without having ever been to one of these beaches, I would
think it is likely that there are no-photographing signs around that
limit one's ability to take pictures and help preserve the privacy of
the participants.
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On Feb 20, 6:45 pm, "dwight" <tfro....DeleteThis@gEEmail.com> wrote:
> <Hoo....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:oALCh.441$qr5.372@newsfe19.lga...
> > troll
>
> Stop yer crossposting, ya perv.
>
> Taking photographs at a nude beach is not recommended, since the people most
> willing to doff their clothing are like our friend Hoover here. Unless
> you're really into man boobs, leave the camera home.
>
> dwight
>
> > "Bili Hilshongrabist" <b....DeleteThis@frspw.net> wrote in message
> >news:Xns98DD9B2E349AFFRSPW@217.160.217.58...
> >> Me and the missus were planning a trip to a nudist resort this spring and
> >> I
> >> wanted to get a good, high MP, concealable camera with long-distance
> >> optical zoom; any recs?

Finally someone posts a good reason for using a concealed camera. Of
course, Dwight posts some good reasons for not bothering.
--
Gator Bait
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"Martin Willett" <mwillett.org.TakeThisOut@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Richard C. wrote:
>> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org.TakeThisOut@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:5440dnF1ufndoU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> So why the violent reaction then? It is a breaking of the contract you
>>> deny making: I'll show you mine if you show me yours. No other
>>> explanation for this behaviour holds water. It has to be seen as
>>> "cheating", somebody has gained the benefit without paying the price and
>>> should be punished, humiliated and made to feel small.
>>> --
>> ==================================
>> It is a violation of peoples privacy in order to make people like you
>> happy.
>>
>> Such videos only show up on voyeaur web sites
>> and display your breast web sites.
>> I take PLENTY of pictures, but everyone in them
>> KNOWS their picture is being taken.
>>
>> The fact that you cannot understand such things shows
>> why we are busting your balls!
>> =====================================
>
> How can you have a right to privacy when you are voluntarily in public
> naked?
>
> "You can't take my picture this is a free country!" I have always found
> that argument absurd. If you are in a private place then things are very
> different but in public is in public, it does not matter what kind of
> people are around you.
>
> If you are in a public place you have no right to determine who can look
> at you or what they think, or say, when they do.
>
=================================
He said NUDIST RESORT!
That would indicate it is NOT public property.
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"Martin Willett" <mwillett.org.RemoveThis@invalid.invalid> wrote in message .
>
> In civilized parts of the world you can go naked or not and nobody will
> berate you or cast doubt on your morality either way.
>
======================
That would be my ideal!

Clothing optional EVERYWHERE!
Help us campaign for that among your textile comrades, will you?
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On Feb 21, 5:02 pm, "David J Taylor" <david-tay... DeleteThis @blueyonder.co.not-
this-bit.nor-this-part.uk> wrote:
> Richard C. wrote:
>
> []
>
> > My thoughts are, isn't it wonderful that such a thing can actually be
> > put on a German video site.
> > Isn't it sad that if you put that on one of the US based sites, it
> > would be removed.
>
> > People are so pathetic.
>
> I thought it was "the land of the free"?
>




Unfortunately, it seems that idiots are exactly as free, and more
numerous. Not just in the US though, which begs the question (or a
question).
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"Martin Willett" <mwillett.org DeleteThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Richard C. wrote:
>> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org DeleteThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in message .
>>>
>>> In civilized parts of the world you can go naked or not and nobody will
>>> berate you or cast doubt on your morality either way.
>>>
>> ======================
>> That would be my ideal!
>>
>> Clothing optional EVERYWHERE!
>> Help us campaign for that among your textile comrades, will you?
>
> Get lost. The majority don't want that everywhere and never will.
>
==============================
Then why did you make that statement?
I guess you do not know your own mind.

I did not alter your text above. It is your wording.
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Richard C. wrote:
> "Martin Willett" <mwillett.org RemoveThis @invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:5440dnF1ufndoU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> So why the violent reaction then? It is a breaking of the contract you
>> deny making: I'll show you mine if you show me yours. No other
>> explanation for this behaviour holds water. It has to be seen as
>> "cheating", somebody has gained the benefit without paying the price
>> and should be punished, humiliated and made to feel small.
>> --
> ==================================
> It is a violation of peoples privacy in order to make people like you
> happy.
>
> Such videos only show up on voyeaur web sites
> and display your breast web sites.
> I take PLENTY of pictures, but everyone in them
> KNOWS their picture is being taken.
>
> The fact that you cannot understand such things shows
> why we are busting your balls!
> =====================================

How can you have a right to privacy when you are voluntarily in public
naked?

"You can't take my picture this is a free country!" I have always found
that argument absurd. If you are in a private place then things are very
different but in public is in public, it does not matter what kind of
people are around you.

If you are in a public place you have no right to determine who can look
at you or what they think, or say, when they do.

--

Martin Willett


http://mwillett.org/

Ultimate Naked Truth.Com

http://ultimatenakedtruth.com/

Bringing the world good clean nudity
for your guilt-free pleasure
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Terry J. Wood wrote:
> Alfred Molon <alfred_molonDELETE.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:MPG.20460d4f69e596e698b364@news.supernews.com:
>
>
>>> You'll be dissapointed in the photos. Nudists are fat, old and UGLY.
>
>> Like this one ?
>
> You'll not find a beach like that one in America. For instance, where are
> the RRR protesters screaming that you are going to H*ll for skinny dipping?
>
> Clearly this video is from Europe.

Yes. Most of the people on the beach are wearing swimming costumes. It
is clearly a genuinely clothes-optional beach, which is wonderful. Not a
beach where you have to cover up or you have to expose everything or
attract the ire of people around you.

In civilized parts of the world you can go naked or not and nobody will
berate you or cast doubt on your morality either way.

Australia has got almost all the world's most dangerous snakes and
spiders, there are Great White Sharks and other man-eaters too, enormous
crocodiles and even some of the bloody jelly fish can kill you. For
decades the criminal scum of the British Isles, whores, thieves,
pickpockets and trouble-making drunks were sent there.

In contrast the USA has got 75% of the world's lawyers and the British
Isles exported wave after wave of sincere Christians there.

Strewth, I know where I'd feel safer cobber.
--

Martin Willett


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Per Terry J. Wood:
> But it was the idea
>that we all discovered that she's naked under her clothes that offended the
>priest, the preacher and the rabbi so much that something had to be done.

Can anybody recall the name of the Mark Twain essay on that theme?
--
PeteCresswell
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