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Since: Oct 05, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:40 pm
Post subject: Need some dead 8x10 film
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I'm looking for a few sheets of 8x10 film, any type, exposed or
not, expired or not. I need to experiment with cutting it down to
determine the proper size to fit all my recently-acquired 6.5x8.5
holders. I'm willing to pay postage if need be, but would prefer
not to waste perfectly good film. I'm located just north of Boston,
MA, USA.
Or is there a standard size? I had one sheet that I cut to exactly
(well, pretty close) 6.5x8.5 but that was actually a bit large. Then
when I cut it down a bit it was obviously too small 
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:24 am
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Stephan Goldstein <sg0ldo1867 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm looking for a few sheets of 8x10 film, any type, exposed or
> not, expired or not. I need to experiment with cutting it down to
> determine the proper size to fit all my recently-acquired 6.5x8.5
> holders. I'm willing to pay postage if need be, but would prefer
> not to waste perfectly good film. I'm located just north of Boston,
> MA, USA.
>
> Or is there a standard size? I had one sheet that I cut to exactly
> (well, pretty close) 6.5x8.5 but that was actually a bit large. Then
> when I cut it down a bit it was obviously too small
>
Why not use paper? If all you're worried about is the getting the sizing
right no need to use film. You can buy a ream of 8x10 copier paper and have
lots of cutting.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:48 am
Post subject: Re: Need some dead 8x10 film [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Nick Zentena" <zentena.RemoveThis@stout.hophead.dyndns.org> wrote in message
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> Why not use paper? If all you're worried about is the getting the sizing
> right no need to use film.
Perhaps because film is smaller than 8x10: 7.91 x 9.92 inches.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Need some dead 8x10 film |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Need some dead 8x10 film [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"jjs" <john@xstafford.net> wrote in message
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> "Nick Zentena" <zentena RemoveThis @stout.hophead.dyndns.org> wrote in message
> news:kipee2-khs.ln1@barley.site...
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>> Why not use paper? If all you're worried about is the getting the sizing
>> right no need to use film.
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> Perhaps because film is smaller than 8x10: 7.91 x 9.92 inches.
My error, Nick!
Minimum 7.91 x 9.92 to Maximum of 7.97 x 9.98
Yeah, maybe thin paper would do the trick!
Uh, unless paper is really larger than 8x10.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:08 pm
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On 2/17/2005 9:08 AM jjs spake thus:
> "jjs" <john@xstafford.net> wrote in message
> news:1119inacf8mhud8@news.supernews.com...
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>> "Nick Zentena" <zentena.RemoveThis@stout.hophead.dyndns.org> wrote in message
>> news:kipee2-khs.ln1@barley.site...
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>>> Why not use paper? If all you're worried about is the getting the sizing
>>> right no need to use film.
>>
>> Perhaps because film is smaller than 8x10: 7.91 x 9.92 inches.
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> My error, Nick!
>
> Minimum 7.91 x 9.92 to Maximum of 7.97 x 9.98
> Yeah, maybe thin paper would do the trick!
> Uh, unless paper is really larger than 8x10.
> I shoulda stayed in bed today.
Besides which, the suggestion was to use copier paper, which is 8-1/2" x 11",
not 8x10 (photo paper). (My customers always get those two sizes mixed up.)
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:40 pm
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I initially took the point as trying to find the ideal size to fit the 6 1/2
x 8 1/2 holders be it from an 8x10 source or larger--I took it that Nick was
making the point of "Why Must You Use Film For This--Why not sized down from
8x10 (8.5 x 11) paper instead!!
Great Idea---
"Perhaps because film is smaller than 8x10: 7.91 x 9.92
inches"------------What has this statement got to do with the cost of
eggs????
So the original poster can cut down from paper to "find" the ideal size to
fit his 6.5 x 8.5 holders!!
Simple Enough!!
'Somebody smokin' crack????
Am I missing something here!!
"David Nebenzahl" <nobody DeleteThis @but.us.chickens> wrote in message
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> On 2/17/2005 9:08 AM jjs spake thus:
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> > "jjs" <john@xstafford.net> wrote in message
> > news:1119inacf8mhud8@news.supernews.com...
> >
> >> "Nick Zentena" <zentena DeleteThis @stout.hophead.dyndns.org> wrote in message
> >> news:kipee2-khs.ln1@barley.site...
> >>
> >>> Why not use paper? If all you're worried about is the getting the
sizing
> >>> right no need to use film.
> >>
> >> Perhaps because film is smaller than 8x10: 7.91 x 9.92 inches.
> >
> > My error, Nick!
> >
> > Minimum 7.91 x 9.92 to Maximum of 7.97 x 9.98
> > Yeah, maybe thin paper would do the trick!
> > Uh, unless paper is really larger than 8x10.
> > I shoulda stayed in bed today.
>
> Besides which, the suggestion was to use copier paper, which is 8-1/2" x
11",
> not 8x10 (photo paper). (My customers always get those two sizes mixed
up.)
>
>
> --
> Today's bullshit job description:
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> • Collaborate to produce operational procedures for the systems
management
> of the production Information Technology infrastructure.
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> - from an actual job listing on Craigslist (http://www.craigslist.org)
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:40 pm
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I'd thought about using paper, but copier paper and the like are
rather flimsy. My wooden filmholders have rather strong spring-
like slots on either side and paper wrinkles and tears when I
try to put it in. Photo paper might work - I haven't tried it yet -
but I'm concerned about its thickness as all I have handy is
doubleweight. Film, with its nice plastic base, is much more
rigid and easy to work with for my experimental purposes.
TIA
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:16 am
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"Stephan Goldstein" <sg0ldo1867.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'd thought about using paper, but copier paper and the like are
> rather flimsy. My wooden filmholders have rather strong spring-
> like slots on either side and paper wrinkles and tears when I
> try to put it in.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:34 pm
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On 2/17/2005 6:15 PM Stephan Goldstein spake thus:
> I'd thought about using paper, but copier paper and the like are
> rather flimsy. My wooden filmholders have rather strong spring-
> like slots on either side and paper wrinkles and tears when I
> try to put it in. Photo paper might work - I haven't tried it yet -
> but I'm concerned about its thickness as all I have handy is
> doubleweight. Film, with its nice plastic base, is much more
> rigid and easy to work with for my experimental purposes.
Well, if you can't find film, you can always use something like paper cover
stock (say 65 lb. cover), or even clear plastic sheets (like report covers).
You should be able to score this pretty cheaply at either a copy or print shop
or a paper store.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:03 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:19 pm
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"Peter De Smidt" <pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net*> wrote in message
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>I don't have the original poster's message, but I'll send him a few sheets
>of 8x10 film. Email me directly at info at desmidt dot net.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:19 pm
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On 2/18/2005 1:19 PM jjs spake thus:
> "Peter De Smidt" <pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net*> wrote in message
> news:42164715$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
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>> I don't have the original poster's message, but I'll send him a few sheets
>> of 8x10 film. Email me directly at info at desmidt dot net.
>
> Hold on. I suspect he's got glass-plate holders.
So what? Even if they are plate holders, you can just stuff something behind
the film, like a piece of cardboard, to fill in the extra space.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:13 pm
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"David Nebenzahl" <nobody.TakeThisOut@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
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> On 2/18/2005 1:19 PM jjs spake thus:
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>> "Peter De Smidt" <pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net*> wrote in message
>> news:42164715$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
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>>> I don't have the original poster's message, but I'll send him a few
>>> sheets of 8x10 film. Email me directly at info at desmidt dot net.
>>
>> Hold on. I suspect he's got glass-plate holders.
>
> So what? Even if they are plate holders, you can just stuff something
> behind the film, like a piece of cardboard, to fill in the extra space.
Sure, but it won't work right. Glass plate holders will deform film quite
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:28 am
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In article <42164348.6040304 DeleteThis @but.us.chickens>, David Nebenzahl <nobody DeleteThis @but.us.chickens> wrote:
>On 2/17/2005 6:15 PM Stephan Goldstein spake thus:
>
>> I'd thought about using paper, but copier paper and the like are
>> rather flimsy. My wooden filmholders have rather strong spring-
>> like slots on either side and paper wrinkles and tears when I
>> try to put it in. Photo paper might work - I haven't tried it yet -
>> but I'm concerned about its thickness as all I have handy is
>> doubleweight. Film, with its nice plastic base, is much more
>> rigid and easy to work with for my experimental purposes.
>
>Well, if you can't find film, you can always use something like paper cover
>stock (say 65 lb. cover), or even clear plastic sheets (like report covers).
>You should be able to score this pretty cheaply at either a copy or print shop
>or a paper store.
>
>
Thanks, that's a fine idea. A local fellow (10 mins away) has offered to
donate a couple of sheets to my cause. Beyond that I'm sure I can find
some cover stock lying around here, or on some old report at work.
And they're definitely film holders, not plates. From my original post, I
had a single piece of film that I first cut too large, then too small. It was
quite firmly gripped by the side holders, and they don't look like they'd
take kindly to a glass plate's thickness. Also, it would be necessary to
bend the plate to get it to slide into the available grooves, and as I recall
from working with plates in college (holography) they are not especially
flexible.
Thanks all,
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