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lofty

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:14 pm
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Hi all,
At a loss of something to do, I have scanned a neg into my computer,
manipulated the image, and then printed out onto an A4 transparency sheet as
a negative, in the dark I then taped it onto a sheet of very old Kodak
bromide paper, put a sheet of glass over it and placed it into the sun for
about 1 hour.
I then fixed the image and selenium toned the picture.
I got an image with some beautiful colours and tones, but the image hadn't
got much punch.
I tried again using some old Ilford Galerie paper, for 2 hours and got
different colours but again not much punch.

how can I carry out this type of work but achieve a more punchy result?

Thanks in anticipation

lofty

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dickburk

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:14 pm
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"lofty" <miduck8.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
> At a loss of something to do, I have scanned a neg into my
> computer,
> manipulated the image, and then printed out onto an A4
> transparency sheet as
> a negative, in the dark I then taped it onto a sheet of
> very old Kodak
> bromide paper, put a sheet of glass over it and placed it
> into the sun for
> about 1 hour.
> I then fixed the image and selenium toned the picture.
> I got an image with some beautiful colours and tones, but
> the image hadn't
> got much punch.
> I tried again using some old Ilford Galerie paper, for 2
> hours and got
> different colours but again not much punch.
>
> how can I carry out this type of work but achieve a more
> punchy result?
>
> Thanks in anticipation
>
> lofty
>
What you are getting is known as photolytic silver.
Papers designed for developing are not very efficient in
producing it because its not desirable in normal use. There
are ways of treating the emulsion to increase the effect, I
don't remember the details but might be able to find them.
My memory is that it involves treating the emulsion with a
solution of Silver Nitrate.
There is paper designed for this kind of printing
called printing out paper or POP. A paper made by Kentmere
in England was distributed in the USA as Centenial POP and
may still be available.
Another way might be to try one of the printing out
alternative processes, for instance salt prints. Salt prints
were common before modern "silver-gelatin" papers were
invented and can be quite beautiful. A Google search for
salt prints will get you a large number of hits including
some with instructions. A good site to get an idea of what
salted paper is is here:
http://www.luminous-lint.com/__sw.php?action=ACT_SING_TE&p1=salted_paper_prints


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pirwin

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:14 pm
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Richard Knoppow <dickburk DeleteThis @ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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> There is paper designed for this kind of printing
> called printing out paper or POP. A paper made by Kentmere
> in England was distributed in the USA as Centenial POP and
> may still be available.

It seems to be. See:
<http://www.albumenworks.com/printing-out-paper.html>


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