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Since: Jan 12, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:23 pm
Post subject: does my d70s have a flash problem?
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Hi,
I just received my new Nikon D70s and I am very surprised about its
behavior when using the built-in flash:
In P (Program) mode it gives me indoors at night 1/60s, and 3.5
aperture (maximum the lens can do) with the flash activated. Nothing
happens when I try to set different timing/aperture values in this
mode.
In S mode I can select the shutter speed between 1/500s (max sync
speed) and 30", as expected, however it shows me massive under-exposure
for speeds faster than 1/8s and the aperture is stuck at 3.5 until I
reach 1/2s and slower.
In A mode I can chose the aperture, the speed is stuck at 1/60s and I
see underexposure warning throughout the aperture range.
All this was done focusing to distances of a few to several feet. I
tried different metering methods. I reset all the settings in the menu
to default. ISO is at 200.
This is not what I expected. Why am I not able to take a picture at say
1/60s but at a more reasonable aperture? Why these irritating
underexposure warnings?
Thanks in advance,
Wolfgang in VT
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:18 am
Post subject: Re: does my d70s have a flash problem? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I have to correct my previous email: If I set menu 21 "shutter speed"
to its default value of 1/60s then the camera does not go beyond this
independent of the aperture I choose. So I guess this gives me what I
want. I must have overlooked this change in behavior after resetting
the camera.
The commander flash mode for the separate flash is really great, by the
way: I can hold the camera with one hand and the flash with the other
or simply put the flash where I want it (comes with a stand) and
operate the camera with no cables attached!
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Since: Mar 24, 2005
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:21 am
Post subject: Re: does my d70s have a flash problem? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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hogges wrote:
> Hi,
> I just received my new Nikon D70s and I am very surprised about its
> behavior when using the built-in flash:
> In P (Program) mode it gives me indoors at night 1/60s, and 3.5
> aperture (maximum the lens can do) with the flash activated. Nothing
> happens when I try to set different timing/aperture values in this
> mode.
> In S mode I can select the shutter speed between 1/500s (max sync
> speed) and 30", as expected, however it shows me massive under-exposure
> for speeds faster than 1/8s and the aperture is stuck at 3.5 until I
> reach 1/2s and slower.
> In A mode I can chose the aperture, the speed is stuck at 1/60s and I
> see underexposure warning throughout the aperture range.
>
> All this was done focusing to distances of a few to several feet. I
> tried different metering methods. I reset all the settings in the menu
> to default. ISO is at 200.
>
> This is not what I expected. Why am I not able to take a picture at say
> 1/60s but at a more reasonable aperture? Why these irritating
> underexposure warnings?
This is the same as my D70 using built-in flash or SB-600. If I want to
use flash as the primary light source, I set the camera to M(anual) and
choose shutter speed and aperture to suit.
The meter is not useful in this situation, it is correctly showing what
would happen if no flash was in use. What's the alternative? It shows
correct exposure all the time that the flash is enabled, expect that
would be wrong if the flash didn't have enough power, and the camera
wouldn't know about that until after you'd taken the picture.
Ian >> Stay informed about: does my d70s have a flash problem? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:25 pm
Post subject: Re: does my d70s have a flash problem? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"hogges" <hogges RemoveThis @gmx.net> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I just received my new Nikon D70s and I am very surprised about its
> behavior when using the built-in flash:
> In P (Program) mode it gives me indoors at night 1/60s, and 3.5
> aperture (maximum the lens can do) with the flash activated. Nothing
> happens when I try to set different timing/aperture values in this
> mode.
> In S mode I can select the shutter speed between 1/500s (max sync
> speed) and 30", as expected, however it shows me massive under-exposure
> for speeds faster than 1/8s and the aperture is stuck at 3.5 until I
> reach 1/2s and slower.
> In A mode I can chose the aperture, the speed is stuck at 1/60s and I
> see underexposure warning throughout the aperture range.
>
> All this was done focusing to distances of a few to several feet. I
> tried different metering methods. I reset all the settings in the menu
> to default. ISO is at 200.
>
> This is not what I expected. Why am I not able to take a picture at say
> 1/60s but at a more reasonable aperture? Why these irritating
> underexposure warnings?
>
According to the D70 manual on p99, the slowest shutter speed used with the
built-in flash is set by Custom Setting #21 (Shutter Speed), It's default
is 1/60 second but it can be set from 1/60 to 1/500. I suspect that the
D70s has a similar feature
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:29 pm
Post subject: Re: does my d70s have a flash problem? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"hogges" <hogges.RemoveThis@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I just received my new Nikon D70s and I am very surprised about its
> behavior when using the built-in flash:
> In P (Program) mode it gives me indoors at night 1/60s, and 3.5
> aperture (maximum the lens can do) with the flash activated. Nothing
> happens when I try to set different timing/aperture values in this
> mode.
> In S mode I can select the shutter speed between 1/500s (max sync
> speed) and 30", as expected, however it shows me massive under-exposure
> for speeds faster than 1/8s and the aperture is stuck at 3.5 until I
> reach 1/2s and slower.
> In A mode I can chose the aperture, the speed is stuck at 1/60s and I
> see underexposure warning throughout the aperture range.
>
> All this was done focusing to distances of a few to several feet. I
> tried different metering methods. I reset all the settings in the menu
> to default. ISO is at 200.
>
> This is not what I expected. Why am I not able to take a picture at say
> 1/60s but at a more reasonable aperture? Why these irritating
> underexposure warnings?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Wolfgang in VT
If the built-in flash leaves you perplexed, and you use the flash a lot, you
might want to upgrade to the SB600 or better yet the SB800. Way more
options available to you, and really compliments your D70. I've got the
800, and use it a lot more than I thought I ever would. >> Stay informed about: does my d70s have a flash problem? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:25 pm
Post subject: Re: does my d70s have a flash problem? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Put the camera in manual mode, use the analog scale in the viewfinder to set
aperture and shutter speed.
"Sheldon" <sheldon.DeleteThis@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
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> "hogges" <hogges.DeleteThis@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:1137122593.649638.252600@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi,
>> I just received my new Nikon D70s and I am very surprised about its
>> behavior when using the built-in flash:
>> In P (Program) mode it gives me indoors at night 1/60s, and 3.5
>> aperture (maximum the lens can do) with the flash activated. Nothing
>> happens when I try to set different timing/aperture values in this
>> mode.
>> In S mode I can select the shutter speed between 1/500s (max sync
>> speed) and 30", as expected, however it shows me massive under-exposure
>> for speeds faster than 1/8s and the aperture is stuck at 3.5 until I
>> reach 1/2s and slower.
>> In A mode I can chose the aperture, the speed is stuck at 1/60s and I
>> see underexposure warning throughout the aperture range.
>>
>> All this was done focusing to distances of a few to several feet. I
>> tried different metering methods. I reset all the settings in the menu
>> to default. ISO is at 200.
>>
>> This is not what I expected. Why am I not able to take a picture at say
>> 1/60s but at a more reasonable aperture? Why these irritating
>> underexposure warnings?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Wolfgang in VT
>
> If the built-in flash leaves you perplexed, and you use the flash a lot,
> you might want to upgrade to the SB600 or better yet the SB800. Way more
> options available to you, and really compliments your D70. I've got the
> 800, and use it a lot more than I thought I ever would.
> >> Stay informed about: does my d70s have a flash problem? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:40 am
Post subject: Re: does my d70s have a flash problem? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Neil Henderson" <n.henderson1.RemoveThis@blueyonderSPAMBEGONE.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the link Colin it makes great reading.
You're welcome!
Out of interest, I was able to copy/paste from the website into MS Word, and
it held the formatting perfectly. By the way, it came to 99 pages - this
chap has kindly written what amounts to a small book for us!
I dropped him a note to say thanks, but haven't heard back yet. >> Stay informed about: does my d70s have a flash problem? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:40 am
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:40:43 +1300, C J Southern wrote:
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> "Neil Henderson" <n.henderson1.TakeThisOut@blueyonderSPAMBEGONE.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.01.14.17.10.55.614000@blueyonderSPAMBEGONE.co.uk...
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>> Thanks for the link Colin it makes great reading.
>
> You're welcome!
>
> Out of interest, I was able to copy/paste from the website into MS Word, and
> it held the formatting perfectly. By the way, it came to 99 pages - this
> chap has kindly written what amounts to a small book for us!
>
> I dropped him a note to say thanks, but haven't heard back yet.
So that explains why I haven't got to the end yet LOL
The thing that gets me is I've always understood what my flash was doing
in Av mode with my Canon an by the sound of it Nikon's do the same so why
all the confusion?
--
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"... I will face my fear... and it will pass through me...
and when it's gone there will be nothing... only I will remain..." >> Stay informed about: does my d70s have a flash problem? |
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