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(Msg. 31) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:58 pm
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On 1/1/2008 9:17 AM pico spake thus:

> "____" <internetphobic.TakeThisOut@deletedmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> In article <47788e1b$0$12715$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com>,
>> David Nebenzahl <nobody.TakeThisOut@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, yeah, we all know too well why there aren't any wet color labs any
>>> more. What would be much more interesting would be to hear about the one
>>> or two still in business somewhere: people who aren't only interested in
>>> the economic aspects of the trade.
>>
>> I personally would love a shot at it- that is; I would rather be
>> printing 40+ a week than doing what I am, promoting such a business as
>> any is a rather expensive proposition & requires advertising and such.
>
> So there ya are again with obvious the economy lesson.

I was going to say, well, duh! Of course any business requires things
like marketing, sufficient capitalization, etc. More basic than
that--and I'm surprised you didn't mention *that* obvious fact--it needs
a market of some kind.

But assuming one puts in the time, effort and money, there still may be
room for a viable business doing wet color printing, particularly since
it will now be a "boutique" commodity, hard to find, not popular, but
sought-after by a few who are willing to pay good money for good work.

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:41 pm
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In article <13nktdf876k3k56 DeleteThis @news.supernews.com>, <pico> wrote:

> "____" <internetphobic DeleteThis @deletedmail.com> wrote in message
> news:internetphobic-850C9E.18092631122007@newsgroups.comcast.net...
> > In article <47788e1b$0$12715$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com>,
> > David Nebenzahl <nobody DeleteThis @but.us.chickens> wrote:
> >> Yeah, yeah, we all know too well why there aren't any wet color labs any
> >> more. What would be much more interesting would be to hear about the one
> >> or two still in business somewhere: people who aren't only interested in
> >> the economic aspects of the trade.
> >
> > I personally would love a shot at it- that is; I would rather be
> > printing 40+ a week than doing what I am, promoting such a business as
> > any is a rather expensive proposition & requires advertising and such.
>
> So there ya are again with obvious the economy lesson.

Obvious is better than ignorant- in my book:) . Should the shoe fit feel
free to wear it.

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:46 pm
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In article <477ab6e2$0$30753$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com>,
David Nebenzahl <nobody DeleteThis @but.us.chickens> wrote:

> I was going to say, well, duh! Of course any business requires things
> like marketing, sufficient capitalization, etc. More basic than
> that--and I'm surprised you didn't mention *that* obvious fact--it needs
> a market of some kind.
>
> But assuming one puts in the time, effort and money, there still may be
> room for a viable business doing wet color printing, particularly since
> it will now be a "boutique" commodity, hard to find, not popular, but
> sought-after by a few who are willing to pay good money for good work.


I think it's obvious some people will pay for these services and pay
well. Getting that business, is not so simple as advertising in the
Yellow pages. For twelve years I actually have done that, with a tag
line that I do black and white printing in addition to other
Photographic services. In that time I have had no inquiries regarding
printing. None.

I have done this type of work for a few Photographers, it has not been
enough to support me doing it exclusively. If one was to advertise in
say Shutterbug and other photo magazines you might draw a wider audience
of those more willing to spend the money-with out a reputation it
probably will be a slow start. Of course there are other ways if one
wants to exclusively pursue this type of business.

So I do believe it can be done. Its just trade advertising is like 600
an issue versus say the 1,200 my yellow pages ad runs per year. Without
trade ads you'll get lots of inquiries, so someone has to answer the
phone or you'll need a website or both. You can actually have too many
inquiries to appear professional if you've no way to respond to all or
are working a job as well as this venture, then word gets around your
not serious. The next thing is a certain element of "Us" photographers
are great big "D-heads" the most anal people you will ever meet and the
most critical, there are a lot of photographers that will do everything
possible not to pay you, your "fair" price. Or will pump you for
information as to how you did what what you did.


Advertising "duh" is the single biggest loss you take as a business,
short of a fire or other tragedy "imop".

Since word of mouth, is by many accounts a better course, perhaps
involvement at a local camera club, arts organization etc,..can give the
start one needs,....or maybe just a sign on the back of your SUV Smile

The last thing is time value, if I take a special two hours to make an
8x10 -meaning chemical mixing etc. I have to at least charge what I
could make working for my cheapest paying client, or lets say the
average employer. Say I am willing to work for what my current employer
is willing to pay me for that 2 hours of time. In my case your minimum
cost is going to be 32.00 plus mailing or shipping that 8x10-not
counting a percent for all business related expenses tied to getting
your business-I also have to make enough from my business model to pay
rent, and have a life. Since initially this is using available free time
to do the work, I have to question: am I the type of person that likes
spending my free time in the darkroom to do other peoples darkroom work?
I also have to ask can I be motivated when I can make a lot more
shooting images and actually seeing some daylight.

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(Msg. 34) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:46 pm
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On 1/1/2008 3:46 PM ____ spake thus:

> So I do believe it can be done. Its just trade advertising is like 600
> an issue versus say the 1,200 my yellow pages ad runs per year. Without
> trade ads you'll get lots of inquiries, so someone has to answer the
> phone or you'll need a website or both. You can actually have too many
> inquiries to appear professional if you've no way to respond to all or
> are working a job as well as this venture, then word gets around your
> not serious. The next thing is a certain element of "Us" photographers
> are great big "D-heads" the most anal people you will ever meet and the
> most critical, there are a lot of photographers that will do everything
> possible not to pay you, your "fair" price. Or will pump you for
> information as to how you did what what you did.

Well, fortunately for us, none of us here will have to worry our little
heads over whether to take our business to you, as it's plain you're
much too wracked with doubt to ever get such an enterprise off the ground.
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:25 pm
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In article <477aeb07$0$30783$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com>,
David Nebenzahl <nobody RemoveThis @but.us.chickens> wrote:
>
> Well, fortunately for us, none of us here will have to worry our little
> heads over whether to take our business to you, as it's plain you're
> much too wracked with doubt to ever get such an enterprise off the ground.

I have better things to do with my time. Included in that is an adios.
As in my last post. Good luck to the nice people here I wish you well
for 2008.

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