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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:45 pm
Post subject: bird photos on cloudy day
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| When taking photos of birds in flight or perched with open sky as
background, does shooting on a cloudy day reduce the chances of
unmanagable chromatic aberration as opposed to a bright sunny day?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:40 am
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drs DeleteThis @canby.com wrote in news:v94141haf60lsfhu0b5mkfsm9696k6gf9b@4ax.com:
> When taking photos of birds in flight or perched with open sky as
> background, does shooting on a cloudy day reduce the chances of
> unmanagable chromatic aberration as opposed to a bright sunny day?
It probably will, however birds against clouds don't look anywhere near as
good as against a nice blue sky. Try shooting early in the morning or late
in the afternoon, and I would also try shooting with a polarising filter
and warming filter combo.
Mick Brown
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:03 pm
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drs.DeleteThis@canby.com wrote:
> When taking photos of birds in flight or perched with open sky as
> background, does shooting on a cloudy day reduce the chances of
> unmanagable chromatic aberration as opposed to a bright sunny day?
Chromatic aberration is in the lens, not the environment. Better lenses
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:45 pm
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uraniumcommittee.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> drs.RemoveThis@canby.com wrote:
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>>When taking photos of birds in flight or perched with open sky as
>>background, does shooting on a cloudy day reduce the chances of
>>unmanagable chromatic aberration as opposed to a bright sunny day?
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> Chromatic aberration is in the lens, not the environment. Better lenses
> have little or none.
A deep blue sky is pretty dark. A cloudy sky is white so much more
contrast & more noticeable CA, I would guess. Definitely more purple
fringing on a digicam.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: bird photos on cloudy day |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:58 am
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:45:18 -0800, paul <paul.DeleteThis@not.net> wrote:
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>> Chromatic aberration is in the lens, not the environment. Better lenses
>> have little or none.
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>A deep blue sky is pretty dark. A cloudy sky is white so much more
>contrast & more noticeable CA, I would guess. Definitely more purple
>fringing on a digicam.
I live in Oregon and many cloudy days are very much grayer than white.
The contrast between a perched bird and its background is not as
pronounced as on sunny days or on days with bright white clouds as
background. The color on the bird doesn't pop as much as on brighter
days but the softer contrast seems to produce better edge effects. I'm
using a Canon L lens telephoto so I think the effects aren't
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:23 pm
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uraniumcommittee RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> drs RemoveThis @canby.com wrote:
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>>When taking photos of birds in flight or perched with open sky as
>>background, does shooting on a cloudy day reduce the chances of
>>unmanagable chromatic aberration as opposed to a bright sunny day?
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> Chromatic aberration is in the lens, not the environment. Better lenses
> have little or none.
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Actually, Michael has a point. Does the OP really mean Flare or Chromatic
Aberration?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:40 pm
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In message <1111716226.417930.226900.RemoveThis@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
uraniumcommittee.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>Chromatic aberration is in the lens, not the environment. Better lenses
>have little or none.
The higher the contrast of edges, the more easily you can see CA. A
bird silouetted against a cloudy sky is one of the most high-contrast
situations you're going to run into.
My general rule is that I shoot birds against the sky on sunny days, and
on cloudy days, I try to shoot low birds with vegetation or the ground
as background, whenever possible.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:40 pm
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In message <Q5-dnXF58Lej5t7fRVn-2g RemoveThis @speakeasy.net>,
paul <paul RemoveThis @not.net> wrote:
>A deep blue sky is pretty dark. A cloudy sky is white so much more
>contrast & more noticeable CA, I would guess. Definitely more purple
>fringing on a digicam.
Agreed, except to note that purple fringing and CA are two completely
different things. CA happens in the lens; purple fringing is a
logistical bug in the demosaicing process, triggered by photosite
leakage (colored light is assumed because of the filters over the cells,
but is actually leakage that occurs *under* the filters).
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:40 pm
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In message <a1d8419g68257mo4ornhmci0em96rkjblg DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
drs DeleteThis @canby.com wrote:
>I live in Oregon and many cloudy days are very much grayer than white.
>The contrast between a perched bird and its background is not as
>pronounced as on sunny days or on days with bright white clouds as
>background.
That's only possible if your backdrop is the underside or side of a dark
cloud, but it is sunnier where the bird is. With homogenous cloud
cover, the sky is always much brighter than a grey card mounted on a
tree branch.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:07 am
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>Actually, Michael has a point. Does the OP really mean Flare or Chromatic
>Aberration?
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>Francis A. Miniter
I probably mean flare because what I see many times doesn't arise from
the lens. I'm using Canon L glass and I think it's clean.
Thanks to all for your comments.
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