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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:07 pm
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Hi Folks,

I've got the beginnings of my first website up at: www.desmidt.net I'd
appreciate any constructive criticism that you'd care to offer.

-Peter De Smidt

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:07:34 -0600, Peter De Smidt
<pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net*> wrote:

 >Hi Folks,
 >
 >I've got the beginnings of my first website up at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.desmidt.net" target="_blank">www.desmidt.net</a> I'd
 >appreciate any constructive criticism that you'd care to offer.
 >
 >-Peter De Smidt


Those are the most phallic looking mushrooms
I've ever seen.

Nice presentation and nice images. A few
seem grainy and over-sharpened, though
that may not be a bad thing in this
particular medium.



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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:40 am
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rafe bustin wrote:
 > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:07:34 -0600, Peter De Smidt
 > <pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net*> wrote:
 >
 >
  >>Hi Folks,
  >>
  >>I've got the beginnings of my first website up at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.desmidt.net" target="_blank">www.desmidt.net</a> I'd
  >>appreciate any constructive criticism that you'd care to offer.
  >>
  >>-Peter De Smidt
 >
 >
 >
 > Those are the most phallic looking mushrooms
 > I've ever seen.
 >
 > Nice presentation and nice images. A few
 > seem grainy and over-sharpened, though
 > that may not be a bad thing in this
 > particular medium.
 >
 >
 >
 > rafe b.
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.terrapinphoto.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.terrapinphoto.com</font</a>>

Thanks Rafe. I'm a newbie with regards to this digital stuff, and I am
having some difficulty getting the right amount of sharpening,
especially with scans from fairly grainy prints. (Most of my prints from
4x5 and 8x10 don't fit on my scanner.) I'm also a little unsure about
how much jpeg compression to use.

Regarding the mushroom: After I took the picture on the site (with Agfa
Ultra 50, a Nikon FM, and a Nikkor 55 macro), I walked a few feet away
to my large format bag to get my 4x5 out. While my back was turned, a
youngster on a scavenger hunt picked the mushroom, held it over his head
, and yelled, "Look what I found!" At least he didn't knock over my
Nikon, which was perched (on a tripod) a few inches from the mushroom.
My disapproving stare at the teacher elicited no response.

I should make a black and white print of the mushroom and mat it
together with "white Begonia", although I'd have to print one of them
through the negative base to get them oriented correctly.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:40 am
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:56:59 -0600, Peter De Smidt
<pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net*> wrote:

 >rafe bustin wrote:
  >> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:07:34 -0600, Peter De Smidt
  >> <pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net*> wrote:
  >>
  >>
   >>>Hi Folks,
   >>>
   >>>I've got the beginnings of my first website up at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.desmidt.net" target="_blank">www.desmidt.net</a> I'd
   >>>appreciate any constructive criticism that you'd care to offer.
   >>>
   >>>-Peter De Smidt
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Those are the most phallic looking mushrooms
  >> I've ever seen.
  >>
  >> Nice presentation and nice images. A few
  >> seem grainy and over-sharpened, though
  >> that may not be a bad thing in this
  >> particular medium.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> rafe b.
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.terrapinphoto.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.terrapinphoto.com</font</a>>
 >
 >Thanks Rafe. I'm a newbie with regards to this digital stuff, and I am
 >having some difficulty getting the right amount of sharpening,
 >especially with scans from fairly grainy prints. (Most of my prints from
 >4x5 and 8x10 don't fit on my scanner.) I'm also a little unsure about
 >how much jpeg compression to use.


First tip: sharpen at the final image
size. Low res images need a smaller
sharpening radius than hi-res. (And
screen resolution is definitely lo-res.)

2nd tip: The more sharpening you apply,
the more you need "high quality" JPG.
Ie., it's the sharpened edges themselves
that create the worst JPG artifacts.

Experiment with the JPG "quality"
settings and decide for yourself
where the best tradeoff is.


 >Regarding the mushroom: After I took the picture on the site (with Agfa
 >Ultra 50, a Nikon FM, and a Nikkor 55 macro), I walked a few feet away
 >to my large format bag to get my 4x5 out. While my back was turned, a
 >youngster on a scavenger hunt picked the mushroom, held it over his head
 >, and yelled, "Look what I found!" At least he didn't knock over my
 >Nikon, which was perched (on a tripod) a few inches from the mushroom.
 >My disapproving stare at the teacher elicited no response.
 >
 >I should make a black and white print of the mushroom and mat it
 >together with "white Begonia", although I'd have to print one of them
 >through the negative base to get them oriented correctly.


Interesting (and sad) story.
Kids these days...

I'm a relative newbie with LF,
and I don't think any of the
images on my site are (yet)
from LF. Sadly, the advantages
of LF are mostly lost on small
images on the web.



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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:57 am
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"Peter De Smidt" <pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net*> wrote in message
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 > Hi Folks,
 >
 > I've got the beginnings of my first website up at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.desmidt.net" target="_blank">www.desmidt.net</a> I'd
 > appreciate any constructive criticism that you'd care to offer.

We live in the same weather zone. I can truly appreciate how difficult it is
to portray cold. Your winter picture is daunting enough that as the sun
rises this moment, I'm wishing I didn't have to walk to work in a few
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:23 am
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Peter De Smidt wrote:
 > Hi Folks,
 >
 > I've got the beginnings of my first website up at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.desmidt.net" target="_blank">www.desmidt.net</a> I'd
 > appreciate any constructive criticism that you'd care to offer.
 >
 > -Peter De Smidt

Nice pictures. You are way ahead of me, so I don't have much to say.
One thing you might consider is providing two versions at different
resolutions of your images. It is a bit more work, but it can mimic
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:40 am
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jjs wrote:

 >
 > We live in the same weather zone. I can truly appreciate how difficult it is
 > to portray cold. Your winter picture is daunting enough that as the sun
 > rises this moment, I'm wishing I didn't have to walk to work in a few
 > minutes. Thanks for that. Smile
 >
 >

Sorry about that John! I printed that picture a good number of years
ago, and it was the toughest one I've ever printed. To start with, I
used 35mm HIE simply because I had a roll and wanted to see how it
responded to winter conditions. Of course, since I was experimenting, I
happened on the best scene that I've come across. At least I had a
camera! In any case, the ice was very dirty, and the print required 25
(or so) separate exposures. Even then, I couldn't get what I wanted. I
had recently heard about lith printing, which is where you "over expose"
susceptible paper and develop in dilute lith developer. After awhile,
infectious development occurs, and you have to pull the print at exactly
the right moment. (This was before Tim Rudman's excellent book on the
process was out.)

Ok. So I acquired some Sterling Lith paper, and set to work. Different
amounts of over exposure, developer exhaustion, and phases of the moon
affect the results. I finally got the look I wanted with a development
time of 40 minutes! I made 10 prints earmarked for a print exchange and
put them on fiberglass screens to dry. The next day I looked and, oh
no!, pepper fogging! (This was a danger with Sterling Lith, especially
when the developer neared exhaustion, which is when the most interesting
results can be had.) You can get rid of this by adding a solution of
potassium bromide when the fogging appears, but this changes the
exposure/development time dynamic. Back to the darkroom!

It took quite a while to get the fresh developer to behave the way I
wanted it, but eventually I made another 10 prints, and they even looked
good the next day! Using this process, Sterling Lith had a peach color,
which certainly didn't fit the image, and so I toned the prints in
Tetenal's gold toner, which give a very delicate (and permanent) blue.
Wash, wash, wash, and to the drying screen they went.

The next day I looked at the prints. Yikes! All but one had salmon
colored stains. I couldn't figure it out. Turns out that hard water was
the problem. We had just moved to a new (old) house in a different city.
After the move, I began to have strange stains/problems with my
prints. For example, the gloss on them when viewed with light skimming
along the surface was not even. I thought that perhaps I had been too
rough handling the prints, and so I took extreme measures. I still had
the problem. A while later we bought a dishwasher. Minerals clogged it
in a few months. The repairman said that he'd be back in a couple of
months if we didn't get a water softener, and so I put one in. My print
problems went away.

So in the end I have one print, which while it isn't perfect, I'm happy
with. I don't have it displayed, though, since I've been too afraid to
dry-mount it!

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:40 pm
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In article <420c2cae$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net>,
Peter De Smidt <pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net*> wrote:

<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.desmidt.net</font" target="_blank">www.desmidt.net</font</a>>

I have not looked at anyone else's commentary
as of yet. Let me just say the work is very outstanding" I like".

Web design you need some help. But its not always easy.
The work quality overcomes any webdesign flaws.....I would
imagine the prints are even better than the screen renditions
very nice work, Peter.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:16 pm
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:07:34 -0600, Peter De Smidt
<pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net*> wrote:

 >Hi Folks,
 >
 >I've got the beginnings of my first website up at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.desmidt.net" target="_blank">www.desmidt.net</a> I'd
 >appreciate any constructive criticism that you'd care to offer.
 >
 >-Peter De Smidt

  I like it. I think that perhaps I like the 3-frame method that
I used on my site a little better. It just seems to draw attention to
the contents a little better. For clarification see
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.darkroompro.com" target="_blank">http://www.darkroompro.com</a> . Note that I'm also updating my site and
will soon have both the forum and a photo-database available for
photographers to post images for discussion.

Regards,

John S. Douglas, Photographer - <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.puresilver.org" target="_blank">http://www.puresilver.org</a>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:40 pm
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"John" <use_net.TakeThisOut@puresilver.org> wrote in message
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 > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:07:34 -0600, Peter De Smidt
 > <pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net*> wrote:
 >
  >>Hi Folks,
  >>
  >>I've got the beginnings of my first website up at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.desmidt.net" target="_blank">www.desmidt.net</a> I'd
  >>appreciate any constructive criticism that you'd care to offer.
  >>
  >>-Peter De Smidt
 >
 > I like it. I think that perhaps I like the 3-frame method that
 > I used on my site a little better. It just seems to draw attention to
 > the contents a little better. For clarification see
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.darkroompro.com" target="_blank">http://www.darkroompro.com</a> . Note that I'm also updating my site and
 > will soon have both the forum and a photo-database available for
 > photographers to post images for discussion.
 >


I couldn't find a single image on your site, beyond the one on the first
page.

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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:31:01 GMT, "Matt Clara" <critics RemoveThis @large.com>
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 >I couldn't find a single image on your site, beyond the one on the first
 >page.

  Quite right as I'm moving all images into the database. Each
photographer including myself will essentially have an online
portfolio.

Regards,

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"John" <use_net DeleteThis @puresilver.org> wrote in message
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 > On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:31:01 GMT, "Matt Clara" <critics DeleteThis @large.com>
 > wrote:
 >
  >>I couldn't find a single image on your site, beyond the one on the first
  >>page.
 >
 > Quite right as I'm moving all images into the database. Each
 > photographer including myself will essentially have an online
 > portfolio.
 >

What kind of script are you using to connect the database? Is this an
out-of-the-box package, or are you developing your own?

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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:20:56 GMT, "Matt Clara" <critics DeleteThis @large.com>
wrote:

   >>>I couldn't find a single image on your site, beyond the one on the first
   >>>page.
  >>
  >> Quite right as I'm moving all images into the database. Each
  >> photographer including myself will essentially have an online
  >> portfolio.
  >>
 >
 >What kind of script are you using to connect the database? Is this an
 >out-of-the-box package, or are you developing your own?

  I guess "out of the box". The front end is Coppermine which
connects to the MySQL database. I have some technical skill when it
comes to PC's but unfortunately I'm no programmer.


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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:35:46 -0600, Peter De Smidt
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 >That's a good idea, especially as APUG has just made their galleries
 >subscriber only.

  Well I'm thinking of making it "invite only". I have a huge
amount of space (2.4GB) for my needs but it wouldn't take long to fill
that up. Right now I'm looking into the limiting capabilities of the
software. Also I'll double my account as soon as needed but this is
still a hobby.

  A quick look at the APUG gallery shows that they have 5353
images in their database. At average of 50KB each that's 261GB if my
math is right. No wonder they went subscriber-only ! I guess it really
doesn't matter but are you familiar with the owner of that site ? A
whois shows it to be Sean Ross in New Zealand.

  All done but the tweaking of the forums. Let me know how you
like the new look if you have the time. Contrast it to
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.darkroompro.com." target="_blank">www.darkroompro.com.</a>


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