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ian3192007

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:00 am
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I just got into large format photography. I've been using my dad's
crown graphic, which has been a lot of fun. What's the difference
between a view camera and a field camera? And which would the crown
graphic classify as?

Thanks,
Ian

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john23

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:40 pm
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On 24 Jun 2003 08:00:33 -0700, ian3192007 RemoveThis @yahoo.com (Ian) wrote:

 >I just got into large format photography. I've been using my dad's
 >crown graphic, which has been a lot of fun. What's the difference
 >between a view camera and a field camera? And which would the crown
 >graphic classify as?

  The Crown and other graphic cameras are typically classed as "press
cameras". The view camera often means a monorail or studio camera though many
photographers will use a monorail in the field. A field view is usually one of
the wooden or metal folding cameras such as the wooden Wisner
(http://www.wisner.com/) or the Toyo (http://www.toyoview.com/) metal cameras.
These are often called flatbed cameras.


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 9:05 pm
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Ian wrote:
 > I just got into large format photography. I've been using my dad's
 > crown graphic, which has been a lot of fun. What's the difference
 > between a view camera and a field camera? And which would the crown
 > graphic classify as?
 >
 > Thanks,
 > Ian

A field camera is one kind of view camera. It folds up easily for
compact transportation. The other kind is a monorail camera, many of
which are designed primarily for studio use, but some can be used easily
in the field. Actually, there are many unique designs and this
distinction is only approximate. The Crown Graphic was designed as a
press camera, but it has some features of a view camera. Since it folds
up, it would be closer to a field camera than a monorail camera, but it
doesn't have many of the important features of a typical field camera.

You can find compreshensive discussions at
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.viewcamera.com/get_start_in_large_format.html" target="_blank">www.viewcamera.com/get_start_in_large_format.html</a>
and
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.largeformatphotography.info" target="_blank">www.largeformatphotography.info</a>


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:44 am
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"Ian" <ian3192007 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > I just got into large format photography. I've been using
my dad's
 > crown graphic, which has been a lot of fun. What's the
difference
 > between a view camera and a field camera? And which would
the crown
 > graphic classify as?
 >
 > Thanks,
 > Ian
View camera is the generic term for a camera with a ground
glass screen directly behind the lens. A field camera is
simply a view camera which is light and compact enough to be
easily transportable. None of these definitions are very
rigid.
By this definition the Crown Graphic is both although most
would calle it a press camera. Most view cameras have more
adjustments or movements than a Graphic has. The Graphic
cameras were designed for news photography, mostly hand
held. They are light, compact, and strong.
BTW, for more on Graphic cameras see:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.graflex.org" target="_blank">http://www.graflex.org</a>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:47 pm
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On 6/24/2003 11:05 AM Leonard Evens spake thus:

 > Ian wrote:
  >
  >> I just got into large format photography. I've been using my dad's
  >> crown graphic, which has been a lot of fun. What's the difference
  >> between a view camera and a field camera? And which would the crown
  >> graphic classify as?
 >
 > A field camera is one kind of view camera. It folds up easily for
 > compact transportation. The other kind is a monorail camera, many of
 > which are designed primarily for studio use, but some can be used easily
 > in the field. Actually, there are many unique designs and this
 > distinction is only approximate. The Crown Graphic was designed as a
 > press camera, but it has some features of a view camera. Since it folds
 > up, it would be closer to a field camera than a monorail camera, but it
 > doesn't have many of the important features of a typical field camera.

More accurately, one could say that while the Crown Graphic has *most* of the
important features of a typical field camera, its movements (front rise/fall,
shift and swing) are much more limited. It isn't the contortionist that fancy
cameras, like monorails with every concieveable movement, are. (And of course
it lacks any rear movements.)

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:52 pm
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A camera in the field is a field camera
A field in the camera is a view
A view in the camera is a field
A camera in the view is a pain in the ass
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:52 pm
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On 6/26/2003 12:52 PM John Stafford spake thus:

 > A camera in the field is a field camera
 > A field in the camera is a view
 > A view in the camera is a field
 > A camera in the view is a pain in the ass

And you, sir, are outstanding in your field.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 8:01 pm
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"John Stafford" <john.DeleteThis@stafford.net> wrote in message
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 > A camera in the field is a field camera
 > A field in the camera is a view
 > A view in the camera is a field
 > A camera in the view is a pain in the ass
 >

ROTFL!
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2003 4:43 pm
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"John Stafford" <john RemoveThis @stafford.net> wrote in message
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 > A camera in the field is a field camera
 > A field in the camera is a view
 > A view in the camera is a field
 > A camera in the view is a pain in the ass
 >

That is perfect!!! Save this and use it as the answer to the view/field
camera question from now on!

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