Taking the digital plunge, finally

Jasen wrote:
> Thanks to all those who have offered sound advice over the last few weeks.
> I am adding to my current minolta system next week, the KM 7D with 18-70mm
> lens and UV filter plus the vertical battery grip and a 1gig 40X CF card to
> start with, just in time to cash in the $300 rebate......if they cough up
> that is! Should do me for a while and stop the missus from whinging about
> me wanting anything else!!
> cheers and thanks, this is a great ng.
> Jasen
>
>


Not only did KM honor my 7D rebate, Lexar honored theirs too.

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"Martin Francis" <mcsalty.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Jasen" <jasen_anderson.DeleteThis@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> > Thanks to all those who have offered sound advice over the last few
weeks.
> > I am adding to my current minolta system next week, the KM 7D with
18-70mm
> > lens and UV filter plus the vertical battery grip and a 1gig 40X CF card
> > to
> > start with, just in time to cash in the $300 rebate......if they cough
up
> > that is! Should do me for a while and stop the missus from whinging
about
> > me wanting anything else!!
> > cheers and thanks, this is a great ng.
> > Jasen
> >
>
> ... is it too late to say the K-M 18-70mm isn't a great lens?
>
> Martin

Is there a good handy reference for lens comparisons in general?

Joe
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"Martin Francis" <mcsalty.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Jasen" <jasen_anderson.RemoveThis@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> > Thanks to all those who have offered sound advice over the last few
weeks.
> > I am adding to my current minolta system next week, the KM 7D with
18-70mm
> > lens and UV filter plus the vertical battery grip and a 1gig 40X CF card
> > to
> > start with, just in time to cash in the $300 rebate......if they cough
up
> > that is! Should do me for a while and stop the missus from whinging
about
> > me wanting anything else!!
> > cheers and thanks, this is a great ng.
> > Jasen
> >
>
> ... is it too late to say the K-M 18-70mm isn't a great lens?
>
> Martin

Um, no, but exactly why isn't it great?
I am buying on tuesday.

Jasen
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> "Martin Francis" <mcsalty DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Jasen" <jasen_anderson DeleteThis @ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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>> > Thanks to all those who have offered sound advice over the last few
> weeks.
>> > I am adding to my current minolta system next week, the KM 7D with
> 18-70mm
>> > lens and UV filter plus the vertical battery grip and a 1gig 40X CF
>> > card
>> > to
>> > start with, just in time to cash in the $300 rebate......if they cough
> up
>> > that is! Should do me for a while and stop the missus from whinging
> about
>> > me wanting anything else!!
>> > cheers and thanks, this is a great ng.
>> > Jasen
>> >
>>
>> ... is it too late to say the K-M 18-70mm isn't a great lens?
>>
>> Martin
>
> Um, no, but exactly why isn't it great?
> I am buying on tuesday.

Well, most reviews of the 5D find the images soft, as do my own
(nonscientific) tests. All of these are with the 18-70mm lens, and AFAIK the
sensor in the 5D is the same as that of the 7D, which is generally well
received. Therefore it looks like the lens is the limiting factor.

The 24-120mm lens seems really good from what i've tried of it, BTW.

Martin
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> >> "Jasen" <jasen_anderson.DeleteThis@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> >> news:sbB1f.230$Tu1.6900@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> >> > Thanks to all those who have offered sound advice over the last few
> > weeks.
> >> > I am adding to my current minolta system next week, the KM 7D with
> > 18-70mm
> >> > lens and UV filter plus the vertical battery grip and a 1gig 40X CF
> >> > card
> >> > to
> >> > start with, just in time to cash in the $300 rebate......if they
cough
> > up
> >> > that is! Should do me for a while and stop the missus from whinging
> > about
> >> > me wanting anything else!!
> >> > cheers and thanks, this is a great ng.
> >> > Jasen
> >> >
> >>
> >> ... is it too late to say the K-M 18-70mm isn't a great lens?
> >>
> >> Martin
> >
> > Um, no, but exactly why isn't it great?
> > I am buying on tuesday.
>
> Well, most reviews of the 5D find the images soft, as do my own
> (nonscientific) tests. All of these are with the 18-70mm lens, and AFAIK
the
> sensor in the 5D is the same as that of the 7D, which is generally well
> received. Therefore it looks like the lens is the limiting factor.
>
> The 24-120mm lens seems really good from what i've tried of it, BTW.
>
> Martin

Ok. I will check out the prices of the other lens but I am on a strict
budget and may not be able to afford it just yet. Most of what I will take
with the 7D will be wildlife and macro shots and for landscapes I am
sticking to fine grained professional film as I think, from what I have been
told thus far, the quality is better with film than with only
6.1MP.....unless you've heard or know differently??
What about simply sharpening the pics anyway if they are a little soft??
Most reviews seem to advise upping the sharpening level a notch or two on
the 7D, but you might be right and it could all be in the lens.
cheers
Jasen
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"Bill" <bill.TakeThisOut@c.a> wrote in message
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> Jasen wrote:
>
> >Ok. I will check out the prices of the other lens but I am on a strict
> >budget and may not be able to afford it just yet.
>
> Then save up until you can afford it. No sense wasting money on a lense
> when you know you won't be happy with the results.
>
> > Most of what I will take
> >with the 7D will be wildlife and macro shots and for landscapes I am
> >sticking to fine grained professional film as I think, from what I have
been
> >told thus far, the quality is better with film than with only
> >6.1MP.....unless you've heard or know differently??
>
> I think that's a crock...6megs is good enough for just about anything.
>
> The only reason I have an 8meg camera is because that's what Canon opted
> to put in the model with the features I wanted. I would have been just
> as happy with a 6meg sensor.
>
> >What about simply sharpening the pics anyway if they are a little soft??
>
> I wish it was that simple...I'd buy cheap glass instead of the good
> stuff.
>
>
>
> >Most reviews seem to advise upping the sharpening level a notch or two on
> >the 7D, but you might be right and it could all be in the lens.
>
> If the image is soft due to the lense, sharpening won't really help
> much. It will make edges more defined and increase detail highlight, but
> it won't improve resolution. Too much sharpening and you get a contrast
> exaggerated image...ugh.

Fair enough, will delay my purchase of the lens and put up with no lower end
focal length zoom for now.
thanks.
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"Bill" <bill DeleteThis @c.a> wrote in message news:Z6mdnXPwt-QDMNXeRVn-pA@golden.net...
> Jasen wrote:
>
> >> >Ok. I will check out the prices of the other lens but I am on a
strict
> >> >budget and may not be able to afford it just yet.
> >>
> >> Then save up until you can afford it. No sense wasting money on a lense
> >> when you know you won't be happy with the results.
> >
> >Fair enough, will delay my purchase of the lens and put up with no lower
end
> >focal length zoom for now.
>
> Remember, the glass on the front is what creates the image for the
> sensor. Lousy glass means a lousy image. Good glass makes a big
> difference.

Yeah, I know that but thought that this minolta lens was supposed to be made
specially for their digital SLRs' and would be better than your average
lens, not to mention that they make special mention that there is an
aspherical element or something in it to lower aberrations. Oh well, you
can't believe everything you read, can you? Surely most things minolta
would be good quality???!!! I guess the price says it all, at half the cost
of say, a Tokina or Sigma lens, what can you expect.
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"Alan Browne" <alan.browne DeleteThis @FreeLunchVideotron.ca> wrote in message
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> Jasen wrote:
>
> > Thanks to all those who have offered sound advice over the last few
weeks.
> > I am adding to my current minolta system next week, the KM 7D with
18-70mm
> > lens and UV filter plus the vertical battery grip and a 1gig 40X CF card
to
> > start with, just in time to cash in the $300 rebate......if they cough
up
> > that is! Should do me for a while and stop the missus from whinging
about
> > me wanting anything else!!
> > cheers and thanks, this is a great ng.
>
> Congrats, wonderful camera system. $300 rebate? US$? Wow!
>
> As others have pointed out, consider another lens. the 24-105 f/var (D)
> comes to mind.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan.

Rebate in Aussie dollars. would be nicer if it was US!
Well, at least they ought to pay up. Bought a Philips shaver that offered a
rebate and haven't seen it even after complaining.
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