Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:34:54 -0800 (PST), RichA <rander3127.TakeThisOut@gmail.com>
wrote:

>It's NOT portable in the least sense. Given that, a good DSLR makes
>far more sense.
>
>http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2008/Sigma/DSC_0827.jpg

NOT portable? If you remove the optional lens hood and optical
viewfinder shown in the link the DP-1 is ever so slightly larger than
an Olympus XA, the most portable camera I own.

The DP-1 may have its problems, but size isn't one of them.


TR
 >> Stay informed about: Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead 

How can someone post so many inane opinions about cameras they have never
seen, smell, touched or tasted let alone used?
 >> Stay informed about: Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead 

What little credibility you may have just continues to erode.

"RichA" <rander3127 DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> It's NOT portable in the least sense. Given that, a good DSLR makes
> far more sense.
>
> http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2008/Sigma/DSC_0827.jpg
 >> Stay informed about: Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead 

In article
<8f849ce5-18b5-45c7-8541-47e2e16cdb8c RemoveThis @j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
RichA <rander3127 RemoveThis @gmail.com> writes
>It's NOT portable in the least sense. Given that, a good DSLR makes
>far more sense.
>
>http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2008/Sigma/DSC_0827.jpg

What can I say about the DP-1

Pros
====
Wide-ish lens.
Quiter operation.
A bit smaller than an SLR with a 28mm equ. Lens.
A bit lighter than an SLR with a 28mm equ. Lens.

Cons
====
Foven sensor.
Slow lens.
No internal view finder.


What could make it worse?
--
Ian G8ILZ
There are always two people in every picture: the photographer and the viewer.
~Ansel Adams
 >> Stay informed about: Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead 

On Feb 4, 8:45 pm, "Peter Stavrakoglou" <nto....DeleteThis@optonline.net> wrote:
> What little credibility you may have just continues to erode.
>
> "RichA" <rander3....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8f849ce5-18b5-45c7-8541-47e2e16cdb8c@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > It's NOT portable in the least sense. Given that, a good DSLR makes
> > far more sense.
>
> >http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2008/Sigma/DSC_0827.jpg

I'll revise that. The initial pictures I saw (they seem to be hard to
come by, unlike images FROM the camera??) made it look overly large,
but subsequent to that I've seen another image and I know its size so
it's pocketable.
 >> Stay informed about: Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead 

Prometheus <Prometheus.TakeThisOut@127.0.0.1> wrote:

[DP-1]
> What could make it worse?

Dropping it on the floor.
Scratching the lens.
Submerging it in salt water.
Feeding mains power top the battery contacts.
Masking the sensor to only have 1x1.5mm active area.

Sheesh, no imagination any more?

-Wolfgang
 >> Stay informed about: Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead 

In article <RoJp0pEIwLqHFwGr.TakeThisOut@spam.newbrain.demon.co.uk>, Prometheus
<Prometheus.TakeThisOut@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> If Canon or Nikon made it, with a leaf shutter to reduce the noise
> further it would make an interesting camera. However I suspect the
> market would not be larger enough to make the price low enough to be
> worth producing it.

Plus, it wouldn't give you goofy colors and jaggies where there should
be none. It might even keep working for a few years too.
 >> Stay informed about: Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead 

In article <tSHGaSDzyAqHFwyx.RemoveThis@spam.newbrain.demon.co.uk>, Prometheus
<Prometheus.RemoveThis@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> What can I say about the DP-1
>
> Pros
> ====
> Wide-ish lens.
> Quiter operation.
> A bit smaller than an SLR with a 28mm equ. Lens.
> A bit lighter than an SLR with a 28mm equ. Lens.
>
> Cons
> ====
> Foven sensor.
> Slow lens.
> No internal view finder.
>
>
> What could make it worse?

fixed focal length lens with digital zoom
absurdly high price ($999)
 >> Stay informed about: Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead 

In article <050220081703218903%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam RemoveThis @nospam.invalid> writes
>In article <tSHGaSDzyAqHFwyx RemoveThis @spam.newbrain.demon.co.uk>, Prometheus
><Prometheus RemoveThis @127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>> What can I say about the DP-1
>>
>> Pros
>> ====
>> Wide-ish lens.
>> Quiter operation.
>> A bit smaller than an SLR with a 28mm equ. Lens.
>> A bit lighter than an SLR with a 28mm equ. Lens.
>>
>> Cons
>> ====
>> Foven sensor.
>> Slow lens.
>> No internal view finder.
>>
>>
>> What could make it worse?
>
>fixed focal length lens with digital zoom
>absurdly high price ($999)

The fixed wide-ish focal length leading to a lower weight is a pro. The
digital zoom is unnecessary, and if not used makes no difference to the
performance (although it probably lets them charge more). The price of
$999 is ludicrous, an SLR with a wide lens can be purchased for about
that. However, I still like pro ideas, if it was a bit wider, had a
decent sensor, and was a lot less expensive I would consider it for
walking about town when I do not want to carry the SLR, but would like
better performance than the compact.
--
Ian G8ILZ
There are always two people in every picture: the photographer and the viewer.
~Ansel Adams
 >> Stay informed about: Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead 

In article <ABf9eoKQBhqHFwGp.TakeThisOut@spam.newbrain.demon.co.uk>, Prometheus
<Prometheus.TakeThisOut@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> The price of
> $999 is ludicrous, an SLR with a wide lens can be purchased for about
> that.

cnet stated it was $999, but apparently that was the list price. as of
today, amazon is selling it for $799 (oddly, it was $750 earlier in the
day). if you want the viewfinder, it's $150 more.

<http://www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9863163-39.html>

<http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-DP1-14MP-Digital-Camera/dp/B0013DCOZC/ref=s
r_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1202303974&sr=8-11>

<http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-External-Finder-Digital-Cameras/dp/B0013DCP
06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=photo&qid=1202326736&sr=1-10>
 >> Stay informed about: Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead 

On 2008-02-06 12:53:52 -0700, Prometheus <Prometheus.TakeThisOut@127.0.0.1> said:

> In article <050220081703218903%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
> <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.invalid> writes
>> In article <tSHGaSDzyAqHFwyx.TakeThisOut@spam.newbrain.demon.co.uk>, Prometheus
>> <Prometheus.TakeThisOut@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>> What can I say about the DP-1
>>>
>>> Pros
>>> ====
>>> Wide-ish lens.
>>> Quiter operation.
>>> A bit smaller than an SLR with a 28mm equ. Lens.
>>> A bit lighter than an SLR with a 28mm equ. Lens.
>>>
>>> Cons
>>> ====
>>> Foven sensor.
>>> Slow lens.
>>> No internal view finder.
>>>
>>>
>>> What could make it worse?
>>
>> fixed focal length lens with digital zoom
>> absurdly high price ($999)
>
> The fixed wide-ish focal length leading to a lower weight is a pro. The
> digital zoom is unnecessary, and if not used makes no difference to the
> performance (although it probably lets them charge more). The price of
> $999 is ludicrous, an SLR with a wide lens can be purchased for about
> that. However, I still like pro ideas, if it was a bit wider, had a
> decent sensor, and was a lot less expensive I would consider it for
> walking about town when I do not want to carry the SLR, but would like
> better performance than the compact.

Apparently you can pre-order on amazon for $799. Wait a few months
after intro and you'll probably find it for $599 or less.
 >> Stay informed about: Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead 

"nospam" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <ABf9eoKQBhqHFwGp RemoveThis @spam.newbrain.demon.co.uk>, Prometheus
> <Prometheus RemoveThis @127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>> The price of
>> $999 is ludicrous, an SLR with a wide lens can be purchased for about
>> that.
>
> cnet stated it was $999, but apparently that was the list price. as of
> today, amazon is selling it for $799 (oddly, it was $750 earlier in the
> day). if you want the viewfinder, it's $150 more.

Still, at $799 it's too high and $150 for a viewfinder?
 >> Stay informed about: Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead 

In article <47aa5132$0$15199$607ed4bc@cv.net>, Peter Stavrakoglou
<ntotrr.TakeThisOut@optonline.net> wrote:

> Still, at $799 it's too high and $150 for a viewfinder?

but the viewfinder can see all colours!
 >> Stay informed about: Sigma DP-1, buy a DSLR instead