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cbh

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:09 pm
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Hi there.

I have some questions concerning selling prints. I've started doing this
with some modest success, at local shows in Toronto, and have been asked a
few questions for which I have no answers!

1. What are folks opinions about numbering prints? It comes up frequently,
so it seems to be of interest to potential buyers.
2. If you are doing a numbered set, what do you see as a reasonable number -
20-30 comes to mind, but I really don't have any idea how to go about this.
3. Do you find folks price less for giclée as opposed to traditional
printing methods?
4. Are you using any specific factor - beyond the cost of materials - to
determine the difference between unframed and framed versions?

I'd appreciate any opinions, experiences you can provide.

Thanks!
Chris Hutcheson
Chrishutcheson.com

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:09 pm
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Chris Hutcheson wrote:

 > Hi there.
 >
 > I have some questions concerning selling prints. I've started doing this
 > with some modest success, at local shows in Toronto, and have been asked a
 > few questions for which I have no answers!
 >
 > 1. What are folks opinions about numbering prints? It comes up frequently,
 > so it seems to be of interest to potential buyers.
 > 2. If you are doing a numbered set, what do you see as a reasonable number -
 > 20-30 comes to mind, but I really don't have any idea how to go about this.

What you're talking about here is a "limited edition". Generally, the
smaller the edition, the higher the price. Some artists do a small
edition and charge a high price, others prefer to charge less but make
the run larger. I've seen editions as small as 8 and as high at 1,500.
The people looking for signed and numbered prints are looking for the
value to increase because of the rarity of the prints. You do realize
that if you do this, when you reach the end of the run that you cannot
ever print the image again in order for the edition to have any value at
all to collectors? In fine art limited editions, the plates made from
the painting and used to create the prints are physically destroyed.
Some photographers do something similar by destroying the negative used
to produce a limited edition. You can't be tempted to print the image
again if you don't have the negative.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:42 pm
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Thanks for your response, Angela, and yes, I'm aware of the constraints. At
the moment I'll be surprised - pleasantly - if I hit 30!

Cheers
Chris
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:40 am
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Chris Hutcheson wrote:

 > 1. What are folks opinions about numbering prints? It comes up frequently,
 > so it seems to be of interest to potential buyers.

Given the mechanical nature of photography, and the fact that (using digital
technology) it's quite possible to make unlimited prints from one image,
I've always found the idea of limited-edition prints to be both pretentious
and cynically money-grubbing. But there you go...

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:40 am
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In article <eolnh2-k4t.ln1 RemoveThis @anon.com>, srm <user RemoveThis @nospam.org> wrote:

 > Chris Hutcheson wrote:
 >
  > > 1. What are folks opinions about numbering prints? It comes up frequently,
  > > so it seems to be of interest to potential buyers.
 >
 > Given the mechanical nature of photography, and the fact that (using digital
 > technology) it's quite possible to make unlimited prints from one image,
 > I've always found the idea of limited-edition prints to be both pretentious
 > and cynically money-grubbing. But there you go...

Yes and no. Limited editions are a good way of finding more buyers
because few buyers are going pay 2,600 for a single print. Where as if
you sell say 25 prints at 100 each its more likely you will find the
buyers. If you sell one print and can command 2,600 more power to you.
Of course its a work related issue and I would certainly rather sell one
print at 2600.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:35 am
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:09:24 -0500, Chris Hutcheson
<cbh DeleteThis @ideaworldhq.com> wrote:

 >Hi there.
 >
 >I have some questions concerning selling prints. I've started doing this
 >with some modest success, at local shows in Toronto, and have been asked a
 >few questions for which I have no answers!
 >
 >1. What are folks opinions about numbering prints? It comes up frequently,
 >so it seems to be of interest to potential buyers.
 >2. If you are doing a numbered set, what do you see as a reasonable number -
 >20-30 comes to mind, but I really don't have any idea how to go about this.
 >3. Do you find folks price less for giclée as opposed to traditional
 >printing methods?
 >4. Are you using any specific factor - beyond the cost of materials - to
 >determine the difference between unframed and framed versions?
 >
 >I'd appreciate any opinions, experiences you can provide.
 >
 >Thanks!
 >Chris Hutcheson
 >Chrishutcheson.com


The people who have run l.imited editions of their work and have made
a lot of money are usually people who hand printed their own work.
What this tells the client is that the image has been reproduced
exactly the way the artist saw it. I was at the Center for Creative
Photography and read a correspondence between Ansel Adams and another
photographer (I can't remember who right now-it's late) and he was
jacking up the other photographer for selling his prints for more than
$100 each because the photographer was able to print more than one at
a time.

Now, of course, Ansel's prints go for over $45,000 a piece, no matter
how many were printed at that time.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:40 am
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In article <7kak4110ith1bs3gdvb2t84ounrugt53c9.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
McLeod <cerveza.TakeThisOut@xplornet.com> wrote:

 > Now, of course, Ansel's prints go for over $45,000 a piece, no matter
 > how many were printed at that time.

Some do, not all. Some are more some less,...it depends.

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or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:54 am
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:47:21 GMT, Gregory Blank
<bugstopped_ DeleteThis @gregblankphoto.com> wrote:

 >Some do, not all. Some are more some less,...it depends.

I took the figure from the Center for Creative Photography exhibit
inTucson.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:08 pm
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Limited editions work well for those established artists whose work is
already considered as collectable. Artists who are new to the market
should not number their prints until their work has gained an
established market value.
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