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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:40 pm
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I'm trying to put together some lenses for a 5x4 but am puzzled by the
numerous names and versions of the Schneider lenses. Is there a succinct
summary somewhere which lists the old and new versions and possibly their
relative merit?

Chris Woodhouse

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:40 pm
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"Christopher Woodhouse" <chris.woodhouse.DeleteThis@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > I'm trying to put together some lenses for a 5x4 but am puzzled by the
 > numerous names and versions of the Schneider lenses. Is there a succinct
 > summary somewhere which lists the old and new versions and possibly their
 > relative merit?

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.schneideroptics.com" target="_blank">www.schneideroptics.com</a>

Vintage lens information - upper right corner menu "Info"->"Vintage Lens
Data"
Current lens information - upper left left under "Photography"->"Large
Format"

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:40 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:37 pm
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Cheers, I once had a G-Claron which turned out to be a Friday afternoon
lens and discounted the whole make. My recent results with Rollei Schneider
lenses has made me think again.


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<font color=purple> > Also see: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.schneiderkreuznach.com/pdf_downloads.htm#foto</font" target="_blank">http://www.schneiderkreuznach.com/pdf_downloads.htm#foto</font</a>>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:27 pm
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Christopher Woodhouse <chris.woodhouse RemoveThis @zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
 > Cheers, I once had a G-Claron which turned out to be a Friday afternoon
 > lens and discounted the whole make. My recent results with Rollei Schneider
 > lenses has made me think again.


Well, I own several Schneider and Rodenstock LF lenses and can't see any
major differences in quality, sharpness and contrast. The G-Clarons are
repro lenses, but I'm unable to see a difference between a negative from
a 9/150 G-Claron and a 5.6/150 Apo-Symmar, both at f22. The newer lenses
may be a little bit better, but I doubt anyone will notice this. All
modern LF lenses from the big four (Rodenstock, Schneider, Nikon, Fuji)
are so sophisticated that there are only minimal differences in quality.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:09 pm
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"Martin Jangowski" <martin RemoveThis @jangowski.de> wrote in message
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 > Well, I own several Schneider and Rodenstock LF lenses and can't see any
 > major differences in quality, sharpness and contrast. The G-Clarons are
 > repro lenses, but I'm unable to see a difference between a negative from
 > a 9/150 G-Claron and a 5.6/150 Apo-Symmar, both at f22.

Both diffraction limited at f22? or close to it.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:26 pm
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"Christopher Woodhouse" <chris.woodhouse.RemoveThis@zetnet.co.uk> wrote
in message
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 > I'm trying to put together some lenses for a 5x4 but am
 > puzzled by the
 > numerous names and versions of the Schneider lenses. Is
 > there a succinct
 > summary somewhere which lists the old and new versions and
 > possibly their
 > relative merit?
 >
 > Chris Woodhouse
 >
Which lenses are you particularly interested in?


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:18 pm
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"Christopher Woodhouse" <chris.woodhouse.DeleteThis@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Cheers, I once had a G-Claron which turned out to be a Friday afternoon
 > lens and discounted the whole make. My recent results with Rollei
Schneider
 > lenses has made me think again.
 >

The G-Clarons are also toward the economy end of Schneider's output, though
normally they are still pretty fine when stopped down. Based on a repro.
lens design, they need to be stopped down for use at infinity.

Anyway, those Schneider lenses for the Rollei (and Exakta 66) system really
are fabulous - not surprised they encouraged you to have another look at the
rest of their product range!

My LF Schneiders are mostly Symmar-S and Super-Angulon models, and all of
them are very good. The Symmar-S is not the current version (and all but
one of my S-As not the latest either) but it performs pretty much the same
as far as I can tell.

I have two Symmars too, and they are not quite as good, but still not so as
you'd notice until you enlarge quite a lot - the biggest difference, so far
as effect on the image is concerned, is in the coating - so they need a
hood. Well, d'uh, am I going to go to the trouble of shooting LF and then
not use a hood anyway?

Finally I have a Xenotar - wonderful but very limited coverage; and two
Xenars - which I may be selling, draw your own conclusion from that. Oh,
and a Repro-Claron which is extraordinarily sharp, and some Tele-Xenars that
are not quite as sharp or contrasty as the Symmar-Ss, but far better than a
telephoto design has a right to be. (I suspect the contrast difference is
down to the older coating, rather than the design, since my T-Xs are not
young.)



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