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measekite

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:02 pm
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<font face="sans-serif">Canon has announced the new Canon Digital Rebel
Xsi aka 450D and has replaced the Compact Flash slot with an SD Card
slot.  I wonder if that is going to begin a trend for DSLRs in general
to be based on SD Cards.<br>
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SD Cards seem to be smaller and cheaper and I cannot see any
disadvantage in the larger CF format.  Any opinions?<br>
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Mr. Strat

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:53 pm
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In article <BjHtj.1911$fX7.717@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, measekite
<inkystinky DeleteThis @oem.com> wrote:

> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
> <html>
> <head>
> </head>
> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
> <font face="sans-serif">Canon has announced the new Canon Digital Rebel
> Xsi aka 450D and has replaced the Compact Flash slot with an SD Card
> slot.  I wonder if that is going to begin a trend for DSLRs in general
> to be based on SD Cards.<br>
> <br>
> SD Cards seem to be smaller and cheaper and I cannot see any
> disadvantage in the larger CF format.  Any opinions?<br>
> </font>
> </body>
> </html>

Oh yeah...posting in HTML in newsgroups.

A clue is a terrible thing to waste.

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Bert Hyman

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:33 pm
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In news:BjHtj.1911$fX7.717@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com measekite
<inkystinky.TakeThisOut@oem.com> wrote:

><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
><html>
><head>
></head>
><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">

What?

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prometheus

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:05 pm
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In article <Xns9A46941571B58VeebleFetzer RemoveThis @216.250.184.7>, Bert Hyman
<bert RemoveThis @iphouse.com> writes
>In news:BjHtj.1911$fX7.717@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com measekite
><inkystinky RemoveThis @oem.com> wrote:
>
>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>><html>
>><head>
>></head>
>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>
>What?

Looks like your newsreader is broken, I saw text without any of the html
instructions. I had to do a view > raw message text in order to see the
html instructions.
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Mr. Strat

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:05 pm
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In article <w1QxjvJyA1tHFwbc.RemoveThis@spam.newbrain.demon.co.uk>, Prometheus
<Prometheus.RemoveThis@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> Looks like your newsreader is broken, I saw text without any of the html
> instructions. I had to do a view > raw message text in order to see the
> html instructions.

No, he's retarded.

Many of us have told him to quit posting in HTML, but his comprehension
skills appear to be nil.
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Bert Hyman

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:28 pm
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In news:w1QxjvJyA1tHFwbc@spam.newbrain.demon.co.uk Prometheus
<Prometheus DeleteThis @127.0.0.1> wrote:

> In article <Xns9A46941571B58VeebleFetzer DeleteThis @216.250.184.7>, Bert Hyman
><bert DeleteThis @iphouse.com> writes
>>In news:BjHtj.1911$fX7.717@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com measekite
>><inkystinky DeleteThis @oem.com> wrote:
>>
>>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>>><html>
>>><head>
>>></head>
>>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>
>>What?
>
> Looks like your newsreader is broken,

No.

Looks like the OP's posting software is seriously screwed up.

HTML has no place in USENET; my server at work is configured to reject
any HTML content.

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rphunter

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:45 am
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measekite wrote:
> Canon has announced the new Canon Digital Rebel Xsi aka 450D and has
> replaced the Compact Flash slot with an SD Card slot. I wonder if that
> is going to begin a trend for DSLRs in general to be based on SD Cards.
>
> SD Cards seem to be smaller and cheaper and I cannot see any
> disadvantage in the larger CF format. Any opinions?

I find the smaller size to be a slight disadvantage, in the 'handling'
aspect. However, that seems to be the direction the market is going.
The prices are still falling, with 2GB SD cards going below $15 on sale.
I can't see any functional advantage of one format over the other. I
have two cameras, and a GPS that use the SD cards, and they have been
totally reliable in use so far. They are a bit easier to lose, however.
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rphunter

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:48 am
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The Augur wrote:
> Just as CPUs are down to 45nm processes the sizes of chips for flash
> memory at reliable high speeds is such that the performance of SD cards
> is identical to compact flash. Camera makers can use the extra real
> estate that even the small size difference between compact flash and SD
> cards generates. Form factors can go even smaller than SD but fingers do
> not get smaller and smaller memory cards are even easier to lose.
>
> SD cards are slower than CF cards. Fastest SD card is 20MB/sec and
> fastest CF card is 40MB/sec. Since the latest CF specification has an
> interface that can operate at 133MB/sec expect even faster CF cards this
> year.
>
> Interestingly enough the SD fastest speed class 6 is 6MB/sec or
> greater. I'm not sure if any CF cards are even manufacturered any more
> that are that slow.
>

That specification is similar to the USB 2.0 spec. VERY much dependent
on implementation, and few cameras in the consumer market would be able
to handle data at those higher speeds.
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Neil Ellwood

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:53 am
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:27:21 -0800, The Augur wrote:

> Just as CPUs are down to 45nm processes the sizes of chips for flash
> memory at reliable high speeds is such that the performance of SD cards
> is identical to compact flash. Camera makers can use the extra real
> estate that even the small size difference between compact flash and SD
> cards generates. Form factors can go even smaller than SD but fingers do
> not get smaller and smaller memory cards are even easier to lose.
>
> SD cards are slower than CF cards. Fastest SD card is 20MB/sec and
> fastest CF card is 40MB/sec. Since the latest CF specification has an
> interface that can operate at 133MB/sec expect even faster CF cards this
> year.
>
> Interestingly enough the SD fastest speed class 6 is 6MB/sec or greater.
> I'm not sure if any CF cards are even manufacturered any more that are
> that slow.
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> <HTML><HEAD>
> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16608" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY text=#000000 bgColor=#ffffff>
> <DIV><FONT face=sans-serif><FONT size=2>Just as CPUs are down to 45nm
> processes the sizes of chips for flash memory at reliable high speeds is
> such that the performance of SD cards is identical to compact flash.
> Camera makers can use the extra real estate that even the small size
> difference between compact flash and SD cards generates. Form factors
> can go even smaller than SD but fingers do not get smaller and smaller
> memory cards are even easier to lose.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=sans-serif><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=sans-serif><FONT size=2>SD cards are slower than CF
> cards.  Fastest SD card is 20MB/sec and fastest CF card is
> 40MB/sec.  Since the latest CF specification has an interface that
> can operate at 133MB/sec expect even faster CF cards this
> year.</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=sans-serif><FONT
> size=2></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=sans-serif><FONT
> size=2>Interestingly enough the SD fastest speed class 6 is 6MB/sec or
> greater.  I'm not sure if any CF cards are even manufacturered any
> more that are that slow.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>

Please don't post in html and keep your line length to below 80. Not
everyone has a free bus pass to get to the end.

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John Turco

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:21 am
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Bert Hyman wrote:
>
> In news:w1QxjvJyA1tHFwbc@spam.newbrain.demon.co.uk Prometheus
> <Prometheus DeleteThis @127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
> > In article <Xns9A46941571B58VeebleFetzer DeleteThis @216.250.184.7>, Bert Hyman
> ><bert DeleteThis @iphouse.com> writes
> >>In news:BjHtj.1911$fX7.717@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com measekite
> >><inkystinky DeleteThis @oem.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
> >>><html>
> >>><head>
> >>></head>
> >>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
> >>
> >>What?
> >
> > Looks like your newsreader is broken,
>
> No.
>
> Looks like the OP's posting software is seriously screwed up.
>
> HTML has no place in USENET; my server at work is configured to reject
> any HTML content.


Hello, Bert:

I concur, as such HTML junk appears in my own news reader (Netscape
Communicator 4.Cool, also. It may be an old application (circa 2003),
and Netscape (the company) is definitely defunct, but, that hardly
excuses "measekite's" inconsiderate behavior.


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur DeleteThis @concentric.net>
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Gary Edstrom

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:57 am
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:39 pm
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
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John Turco wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:47BAADA8.207862E6@concentric.net" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Bert Hyman wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">In <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:w1QxjvJyA1tHFwbc@spam.newbrain.demon.co.uk">news:w1QxjvJyA1tHFwbc@spam.newbrain.demon.co.uk</a> Prometheus
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Prometheus@127.0.0.1"><Prometheus DeleteThis @127.0.0.1></a> wrote:

</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">In article <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Xns9A46941571B58VeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7"><Xns9A46941571B58VeebleFetzer DeleteThis @216.250.184.7></a>, Bert Hyman
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bert@iphouse.com"><bert DeleteThis @iphouse.com></a> writes
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">In <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:BjHtj.1911$fX7.717@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com">news:BjHtj.1911$fX7.717@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com</a> measekite
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:inkystinky@oem.com"><inkystinky DeleteThis @oem.com></a> wrote:

</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">What?
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">Looks like your newsreader is broken,
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">No.

Looks like the OP's posting software is seriously screwed up.

HTML has no place in USENET; my server at work is configured to reject
any HTML content.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->

Hello, Bert:

I concur, as such HTML junk appears in my own news reader (Netscape
Communicator 4.Cool, also. It may be an old application (circa 2003),
and Netscape (the company) is definitely defunct, but, that hardly
excuses "measekite's" inconsiderate behavior.
</pre>
</blockquote>
One should not be shunned to move back from the 21st century of
computing to the dark ages because some people refuse to upgrade their
software and want to continue to use stuff from the dial up modem days.<br>
<br>
Today people have fast pentiums or even dual core with gigabytes of
memory and even more storage and have T! speed and higher instead of
33k when all of these archaic stuff was used.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:47BAADA8.207862E6@concentric.net" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">

Cordially,
John Turco <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jtur@concentric.net"><jtur DeleteThis @concentric.net></a>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:54 pm
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:48 pm
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inkystinky DeleteThis @oem.com (measekite) wrote in
news:ySBuj.8304$5K1.3414@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:

><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
><html>
><head>
> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"
> http-equiv="Content-Type">
></head>
><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
><br>
><br>

What?

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John Navas

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:34 pm
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:21:28 -0600, John Turco <jtur.RemoveThis@concentric.net>
wrote in <47BAADA8.207862E6.RemoveThis@concentric.net>:

>Bert Hyman wrote:
>>
>> In news:w1QxjvJyA1tHFwbc@spam.newbrain.demon.co.uk Prometheus
>> <Prometheus.RemoveThis@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <Xns9A46941571B58VeebleFetzer.RemoveThis@216.250.184.7>, Bert Hyman
>> ><bert.RemoveThis@iphouse.com> writes
>> >>In news:BjHtj.1911$fX7.717@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com measekite
>> >><inkystinky.RemoveThis@oem.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>> >>><html>
>> >>><head>
>> >>></head>
>> >>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>> >>
>> >>What?
>> >
>> > Looks like your newsreader is broken,
>>
>> No.
>>
>> Looks like the OP's posting software is seriously screwed up.
>>
>> HTML has no place in USENET; my server at work is configured to reject
>> any HTML content.

>I concur, as such HTML junk appears in my own news reader (Netscape
>Communicator 4.Cool, also. It may be an old application (circa 2003),
>and Netscape (the company) is definitely defunct, but, that hardly
>excuses "measekite's" inconsiderate behavior.

My principal newsreader is Forte Agent 1.93, which IMHO had never been
equaled, much less beat, by other newsreaders, including later bloated
versions of Forte Agent. Designed as a pure Usenet newsreader to Usenet
standards, it can only handle plain text directly.

HTML posting, like much other Microsoft conduct, is contrary to Usenet
standards, rude, and wasteful of Usenet resources.

After asking nicely a couple of times, I add anyone rude enough to
persist in HTML posting to my twit filter, which is of course no great
loss.

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