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Steve

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:59 am
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http://www.gripe2ed.com/scoop/story/2008/1/24/94733/7581


A camera with a EULA that allows only certain people to use it, and
only to take certain kinds of pictures -

You hereby agree that your use of the camera's UV and IR light energy
sensitive capabilities, as enabled by Fujifilm's camera firmware, will
be purely to accomplish a legitimate business purpose in the medical,
forensic, fire investigative, law enforcement, scientific, systems
integrators, museum/antiquity, aerial photographic survey, astronomy,
professional nature and fine art photography, photographic education
and local and federal government markets. You further agree not to use
the camera's hardware and firmware enabled capabilities to engage in
unethical photographic conduct involving the violation of personal
privacy.



--

In 1969, I published a small book on Humility.
It was a pioneering work which has not, to my knowledge, been superseded.

....Lord Longford

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mianileng

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:36 pm
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On Jan 27, 11:59 pm, Steve <h....TakeThisOut@wsx.inv> wrote:
> http://www.gripe2ed.com/scoop/story/2008/1/24/94733/7581
>
> A camera with a EULA that allows only certain people to use it, and
> only to take certain kinds of pictures -
>
> You hereby agree that your use of the camera's UV and IR light energy
> sensitive capabilities, as enabled by Fujifilm's camera firmware, will
> be purely to accomplish a legitimate business purpose in the medical,
> forensic, fire investigative, law enforcement, scientific, systems
> integrators, museum/antiquity, aerial photographic survey, astronomy,
> professional nature and fine art photography, photographic education
> and local and federal government markets. You further agree not to use
> the camera's hardware and firmware enabled capabilities to engage in
> unethical photographic conduct involving the violation of personal
> privacy.
>
I didn't go to the link, but judging from the part you quoted, Fuji
don't allow their technology to be used for, say, taking a snapshot
of one's own cat in the dark, which certainly wouldn't qualify as a
"professional nature" shot or as a "business purpose" !!!

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Neil Harrington

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:05 pm
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Steve wrote:
> http://www.gripe2ed.com/scoop/story/2008/1/24/94733/7581
>
>
> A camera with a EULA that allows only certain people to use it, and
> only to take certain kinds of pictures -
>
> You hereby agree that your use of the camera's UV and IR light energy
> sensitive capabilities, as enabled by Fujifilm's camera firmware, will
> be purely to accomplish a legitimate business purpose in the medical,
> forensic, fire investigative, law enforcement, scientific, systems
> integrators, museum/antiquity, aerial photographic survey, astronomy,
> professional nature and fine art photography, photographic education
> and local and federal government markets. You further agree not to use
> the camera's hardware and firmware enabled capabilities to engage in
> unethical photographic conduct involving the violation of personal
> privacy.

Sounds like Fuji is just afraid of getting sued for something or other, and
these days who can blame them. Otherwise I doubt they really care what you
use the camera for.
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nospam4

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:05 pm
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In article <L6KdnQxeiNWMbwHanZ2dnUVZ_tOtnZ2d.DeleteThis@comcast.com>, Neil
Harrington <neil.DeleteThis@private.address> wrote:

> > A camera with a EULA that allows only certain people to use it, and
> > only to take certain kinds of pictures -
> >
> > You hereby agree that your use of the camera's UV and IR light energy
> > sensitive capabilities, as enabled by Fujifilm's camera firmware, will
> > be purely to accomplish a legitimate business purpose in the medical,
> > forensic, fire investigative, law enforcement, scientific, systems
> > integrators, museum/antiquity, aerial photographic survey, astronomy,
> > professional nature and fine art photography, photographic education
> > and local and federal government markets. You further agree not to use
> > the camera's hardware and firmware enabled capabilities to engage in
> > unethical photographic conduct involving the violation of personal
> > privacy.
>
> Sounds like Fuji is just afraid of getting sued for something or other, and
> these days who can blame them. Otherwise I doubt they really care what you
> use the camera for.

because the camera can shoot uv/ir, it can be used to 'see through'
clothing in some circumstances. fuji doesn't want to be seen as
promoting it as a voyeuristic tool, thus the restriction. obviously,
there's virtually no way they can enforce it.
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gdunn

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:14 pm
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nospam wrote:
> In article <L6KdnQxeiNWMbwHanZ2dnUVZ_tOtnZ2d.DeleteThis@comcast.com>, Neil
> Harrington <neil.DeleteThis@private.address> wrote:
>
>>> A camera with a EULA that allows only certain people to use it, and
>>> only to take certain kinds of pictures -
>>>
>>> You hereby agree that your use of the camera's UV and IR light energy
>>> sensitive capabilities, as enabled by Fujifilm's camera firmware, will
>>> be purely to accomplish a legitimate business purpose in the medical,
>>> forensic, fire investigative, law enforcement, scientific, systems
>>> integrators, museum/antiquity, aerial photographic survey, astronomy,
>>> professional nature and fine art photography, photographic education
>>> and local and federal government markets. You further agree not to use
>>> the camera's hardware and firmware enabled capabilities to engage in
>>> unethical photographic conduct involving the violation of personal
>>> privacy.
>> Sounds like Fuji is just afraid of getting sued for something or other, and
>> these days who can blame them. Otherwise I doubt they really care what you
>> use the camera for.
>
> because the camera can shoot uv/ir, it can be used to 'see through'
> clothing in some circumstances. fuji doesn't want to be seen as
> promoting it as a voyeuristic tool, thus the restriction. obviously,
> there's virtually no way they can enforce it.


It's not a restriction, per se, it's a disclaimer statement. They have
no purpose in enforcing such a thing, this statement is nothing more
than the legal beagles barking at the moon.

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
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Rich

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:05 pm
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On Jan 27, 1:59 pm, Steve <h... DeleteThis @wsx.inv> wrote:
> http://www.gripe2ed.com/scoop/story/2008/1/24/94733/7581
>
> A camera with a EULA that allows only certain people to use it, and
> only to take certain kinds of pictures -
>
> You hereby agree that your use of the camera's UV and IR light energy
> sensitive capabilities, as enabled by Fujifilm's camera firmware, will
> be purely to accomplish a legitimate business purpose in the medical,
> forensic, fire investigative, law enforcement, scientific, systems
> integrators, museum/antiquity, aerial photographic survey, astronomy,
> professional nature and fine art photography, photographic education
> and local and federal government markets. You further agree not to use
> the camera's hardware and firmware enabled capabilities to engage in
> unethical photographic conduct involving the violation of personal
> privacy.
>
> --
>
> In 1969, I published a small book on Humility.
> It was a pioneering work which has not, to my knowledge, been superseded.
>
> ...Lord Longford

Dear Fuji. Go F--- yourself and TRY to make any of that nonsense hold
up in court.
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Jufi

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:11 pm
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"Steve" <hgd.DeleteThis@wsx.inv> wrote in message
news:e3lpp3p8n3890v1dskja6qlcufjnr22ceg@4ax.com...
>
> http://www.gripe2ed.com/scoop/story/2008/1/24/94733/7581
>
>
> A camera with a EULA that allows only certain people to use it, and
> only to take certain kinds of pictures -
>
> You hereby agree that your use of the camera's UV and IR light energy
> sensitive capabilities, as enabled by Fujifilm's camera firmware, will
> be purely to accomplish a legitimate business purpose in the medical,
> forensic, fire investigative, law enforcement, scientific, systems
> integrators, museum/antiquity, aerial photographic survey, astronomy,
> professional nature and fine art photography, photographic education
> and local and federal government markets. You further agree not to use
> the camera's hardware and firmware enabled capabilities to engage in
> unethical photographic conduct involving the violation of personal
> privacy.

Just Fuji's lawyers covering the company's ass. Nobody really cares how you
use your camera.
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Lazlo Lebrun

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:18 am
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Steve wrote:
> http://www.gripe2ed.com/scoop/story/2008/1/24/94733/7581
>
>
> A camera with a EULA that allows only certain people to use it, and
> only to take certain kinds of pictures -
>
> You hereby agree that your use of the camera's UV and IR light energy
> sensitive capabilities, as enabled by Fujifilm's camera firmware, will
> be purely to accomplish a legitimate business purpose in the medical,
> forensic, fire investigative, law enforcement, scientific, systems
> integrators, museum/antiquity, aerial photographic survey, astronomy,
> professional nature and fine art photography, photographic education
> and local and federal government markets. You further agree not to use
> the camera's hardware and firmware enabled capabilities to engage in
> unethical photographic conduct involving the violation of personal
> privacy.
>
Haven't you been authorized to use it for "fine art photography" and
"photographic education"?
Wink

Laszlo
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Tom Yost

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:31 pm
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:59:14 -0800, Steve <hgd RemoveThis @wsx.inv> wrote:

>
>http://www.gripe2ed.com/scoop/story/2008/1/24/94733/7581
>
>
>A camera with a EULA that allows only certain people to use it, and
>only to take certain kinds of pictures -
>
>You hereby agree that your use of the camera's UV and IR light energy
>sensitive capabilities, as enabled by Fujifilm's camera firmware, will
>be purely to accomplish a legitimate business purpose in the medical,
>forensic, fire investigative, law enforcement, scientific, systems
>integrators, museum/antiquity, aerial photographic survey, astronomy,
>professional nature and fine art photography, photographic education
>and local and federal government markets. You further agree not to use
>the camera's hardware and firmware enabled capabilities to engage in
>unethical photographic conduct involving the violation of personal
>privacy.


http://www.xraywatcher.com/introavs.htm

http://gals.xrayhunter.com/xray-see-through/index.php

etc...
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