Photoshop, or Photoshop Elements / Apple or PC?

John Phillips <flatulantdingo.DeleteThis@deadspam.com> wrote:

> By just buying Elements, would I miss out on much?

Yes. Whether you need that stuff is up to you.

> Second question, what is best to store and manipulate photos on - Apple or
> PC?
>
> (Not a troll btw!)

Har.

I haven't tried the new Mac OS (Tiger), but I hear Spotlight (the search
system) can do searches based on EXIF and other forms of metadata.
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> Second question, what is best to store and manipulate photos on - Apple or
> PC?
>
> (Not a troll btw!)

I'm in the PC business and used to rent office space inside a Mac sales and
support company - it made for some fun debates!

Trying to put all bias aside, the same program (albeit Mac -v- PC code)
should function in the same way on either platform. Macs used to have a
massive stronghold in the graphics and education markets, but in the last
figures I saw (several years ago) PCs had overtaken them - proportionally
though, the Mac share was still quite remarkable - they had something like
3% of the world market, yet around 50% of the graphics market.

I'm not sure what they're up to these days - but I do know that PC hardware
has dropped in cost to a ridiculous value - to the point where just one
major app like photoshop costs me more than the basic hardware to run it
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CFB wrote:
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> Anyway, the new Mac Mini's are coming out soon. $500. I would say it
> is worth looking into.

Isn't anyone buying a non-Intel Mac today buying into a dying product
line?

David
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Brian Baird wrote:

> I think getting Mac off of a proprietary platform will either be the
> last gasp by Jobs and Co, or the revival of the brand. I mean,
> instead of being hardware snobs, Mac users will fall into the ranks
> of Linux heads. Whether that will mean they are more or less
> annoying remains to be seen.

And the only thing that saved their asses this time around was the iPod.
The only thing that will separate the wheat from the chaff is if Apple ports
their OS to an i386 platform and let the consumers decide which is best.



Rita
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David J Taylor wrote:
> CFB wrote:
> []
>
>>Anyway, the new Mac Mini's are coming out soon. $500. I would say it
>>is worth looking into.
>
>
> Isn't anyone buying a non-Intel Mac today buying into a dying product
> line?
>
> David
>
>
I just converted back to Mac (Tiger) from XP -- it wasn't cheap, but it
was the right move for me. Photoshop operates the same on both
platforms so that's a non-issue. In terms of stability, usability, and
quality of display and color management, however, Mac wins hands down.
For me. It's not cheap, but lots of people find it a better enabler and
a better long-term value for graphics/video/audio work. I certainly do.

Re dying platform, the Mac I bought this year will last me five years
easily. By then Apple will have not only ported OS/X to the Intel
platform -- it's a UNIX core; I'm sure they've done it already -- but
*also* figured out how to run XP or Longhorn or whatever Redmond has
available natively on the Intel chip. Packaged in a box with
Apple-quality physical/system design. I think the upgrade path for
OS/X+apps is pretty exciting and the processor switch a fascinating
opportunity for Apple to get back in the game big time.
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Dick Muldoon wrote:

> I just converted back to Mac (Tiger) from XP -- it wasn't cheap, but
> it was the right move for me. Photoshop operates the same on both
> platforms so that's a non-issue. In terms of stability, usability,
> and quality of display and color management, however, Mac wins hands
> down. For me. It's not cheap, but lots of people find it a better
> enabler and a better long-term value for graphics/video/audio work. I
> certainly do.
> Re dying platform, the Mac I bought this year will last me five years
> easily. By then Apple will have not only ported OS/X to the Intel
> platform -- it's a UNIX core; I'm sure they've done it already -- but
> *also* figured out how to run XP or Longhorn or whatever Redmond has
> available natively on the Intel chip. Packaged in a box with
> Apple-quality physical/system design. I think the upgrade path for
> OS/X+apps is pretty exciting and the processor switch a fascinating
> opportunity for Apple to get back in the game big time.

Microsoft is so far ahead of Mac in terms of stability and graphics/video
work that they don't even look in the rear view mirror to see if they are
gaining. The simple gesture of Mac porting to an Intel chip is a clear
indication of them swallowing massive quantities of crow while drowning.




Rita
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In article <gTLEe.29011$5N3.19681@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
Dick Muldoon <rpmuldoon DeleteThis @att.net> wrote:

> I just converted back to Mac (Tiger) from XP -- it wasn't cheap, but it
> was the right move for me. Photoshop operates the same on both
> platforms so that's a non-issue. In terms of stability, usability, and
> quality of display and color management, however, Mac wins hands down.
> For me. It's not cheap, but lots of people find it a better enabler and
> a better long-term value for graphics/video/audio work. I certainly do.

Welcome back from the dark side.

> Re dying platform, the Mac I bought this year will last me five years
> easily. By then Apple will have not only ported OS/X to the Intel
> platform -- it's a UNIX core; I'm sure they've done it already -- but
> *also* figured out how to run XP or Longhorn or whatever Redmond has
> available natively on the Intel chip. Packaged in a box with
> Apple-quality physical/system design. I think the upgrade path for
> OS/X+apps is pretty exciting and the processor switch a fascinating
> opportunity for Apple to get back in the game big time.

They changed the name the other day...it's not Longhorn any more - the
next version of Windows will be called Microsoft Vista.
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Hi,

At home, I'm using a 14" Apple iBook with OS X (10.3.9) and PS CS2. I
also have PS Elements 3 on the machine. I find CS2 very nice to work
with and particularly like the Bridge program (with slide show feature
to see full screen pics easily).

I have a Gateway laptop with Win XP gathering dust in my closet. It has
PS Elements 2 on it. But I seldom (never) use it. Why?

The Mac is just so much more -elegent!-

Best,

Conrad


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Conrad
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Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:

> Microsoft is so far ahead of Mac in terms of stability and graphics/video
> work that they don't even look in the rear view mirror to see if they are
> gaining. The simple gesture of Mac porting to an Intel chip is a clear
> indication of them swallowing massive quantities of crow while drowning.

The reason Apple is switching to Intel have to do with the shortcomings
of PowerPC in power consumption for portable computers.
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CFB wrote:

> Question: How long have you used 10.3.9 and how long have you used XP?

I'm strictly a user of MS and Redhat Linux (Fedora Core). While I find
Apple products to be top-notch they have nothing to offer me beyond what MS
does.



Rita
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In article <11e73n2cpui2m09.TakeThisOut@news.supernews.com>, Rita Ä Berkowitz <
@aol.com> wrote:

> Microsoft is so far ahead of Mac in terms of stability and graphics/video
> work that they don't even look in the rear view mirror to see if they are
> gaining. The simple gesture of Mac porting to an Intel chip is a clear
> indication of them swallowing massive quantities of crow while drowning.

I can lock up XP on a regular basis, but haven't had OS X die on me
since the initial release back in 2001. You might want to have that
Clue Deficit Disorder looked into.
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Alan Browne wrote:

> The reason Apple is switching to Intel have to do with the
> shortcomings of PowerPC in power consumption for portable computers.

Nope, do a Google search and you'll quickly see that the primary reason is
purely motivated by economics. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against
Apple and find their products to be top notch, but I know what is best when
all the marketing hype is stripped away.



Rita
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In article <11e7a92pdjkbh60.RemoveThis@news.supernews.com>, Rita Ä Berkowitz <
@aol.com> wrote:

> I'm strictly a user of MS and Redhat Linux (Fedora Core). While I find
> Apple products to be top-notch they have nothing to offer me beyond what MS
> does.

Ah...that explains it...a penguin.
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