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Neil Harrington

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:05 pm
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http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:05 pm
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Neil Harrington wrote:
> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm

Ha, it does movies (sort of):

"Stop-Motion Movie mode is a D-SLR first that enables users to create
stop-animation movie clips from a series of as many as 100 consecutive
JPEG picture files."

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:05 pm
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On Jan 29, 12:05 pm, "Neil Harrington" <n....DeleteThis@private.address> wrote:
> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm

The introduction suggests it's a replacement for the D80, but it looks
more like a replacement for the D40X. I didn't see, but I assume it
doesn't have an autofocus motor for non AF-S lenses.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:05 pm
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On Jan 29, 2:37 pm, Jeffrey Kaplan <nom....TakeThisOut@gordol.org> wrote:
> Previously on rec.photo.digital.slr-systems, Mark Sieving said:
>
> > On Jan 29, 12:05 pm, "Neil Harrington" <n....TakeThisOut@private.address> wrote:
> > >http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm
>
> > The introduction suggests it's a replacement for the D80, but it looks
> > more like a replacement for the D40X. I didn't see, but I assume it
> > doesn't have an autofocus motor for non AF-S lenses.
>
> The specs say that non-AF-S lenses won't autofocus on it, and it's "the
> same form factor" as the D40(x). By implication, it does not have an
> internal focus motor.

It doesn't, check the picture of the bayonet.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:05 pm
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In article <nhKnj.3639$nK5.2748@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>, Paul Furman
<paul- DeleteThis @-edgehill.net> wrote:

> Neil Harrington wrote:
> > http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm

ken claims it replaces the d80? it's very clearly a replacement for
the d40x and probably the d40 as well. nikon should have called it a
d45, since there's not a huge difference between it and the d40x.

> Ha, it does movies (sort of):
>
> "Stop-Motion Movie mode is a D-SLR first that enables users to create
> stop-animation movie clips from a series of as many as 100 consecutive
> JPEG picture files."

dpreview has a sample 'movie':
<http://a.img-dpreview.com/news/0801/nikon/ASC_0115.AVI>

and a brief hands-on:
<http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012911nikond601st.asp>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:38 pm
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"Paul Furman" <paul-.DeleteThis@-edgehill.net> wrote in message
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> Neil Harrington wrote:
>> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm
>
> Ha, it does movies (sort of):
>
> "Stop-Motion Movie mode is a D-SLR first that enables users to create
> stop-animation movie clips from a series of as many as 100 consecutive
> JPEG picture files."

Yes, and Ken says he actually wants that. Heh. I wonder what the method is.

What's interesting to me is its being packaged with the 18-55 VR. Since that
implies enormous production of that lens, presumably it will be very
attractively priced.

Neil
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:31 pm
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Mark Sieving wrote:
> On Jan 29, 12:05 pm, "Neil Harrington" <n... RemoveThis @private.address> wrote:
>> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm
>
> The introduction suggests it's a replacement for the D80, but it looks
> more like a replacement for the D40X.

Yes, definitely. Maybe a typo on Ken's part.


> I didn't see, but I assume it
> doesn't have an autofocus motor for non AF-S lenses.

I assume that too. Body looks the same size as the D40/D40x so I'd think
that would rule out an AF motor and coupling in the body.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:37 pm
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Previously on rec.photo.digital.slr-systems, Mark Sieving said:

> On Jan 29, 12:05 pm, "Neil Harrington" <n... RemoveThis @private.address> wrote:
> > http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm
>
> The introduction suggests it's a replacement for the D80, but it looks
> more like a replacement for the D40X. I didn't see, but I assume it
> doesn't have an autofocus motor for non AF-S lenses.

The specs say that non-AF-S lenses won't autofocus on it, and it's "the
same form factor" as the D40(x). By implication, it does not have an
internal focus motor.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:18 pm
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nospam wrote:
> In article <nhKnj.3639$nK5.2748@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>, Paul Furman
> <paul-.DeleteThis@-edgehill.net> wrote:
>
>> Neil Harrington wrote:
>>> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm
>
> ken claims it replaces the d80? it's very clearly a replacement for
> the d40x and probably the d40 as well. nikon should have called it a
> d45, since there's not a huge difference between it and the d40x.
>
>> Ha, it does movies (sort of):
>>
>> "Stop-Motion Movie mode is a D-SLR first that enables users to create
>> stop-animation movie clips from a series of as many as 100 consecutive
>> JPEG picture files."
>
> dpreview has ... a brief hands-on:
> <http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012911nikond601st.asp>

OK so it's a D40x with a new processor & anti dust system. One
interesting feature is a "digital rangefinder that indicates subject
distance when manually focusing lenses". Hmm. Does that mean it'll meter
with old Ai lenses too?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:04 pm
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On Jan 29, 6:46 pm, frederick <l....TakeThisOut@sea.com> wrote:
> gpaleo wrote:
> > "Neil Harrington" <n....TakeThisOut@private.address> wrote
> >news:CIidndkOmrr6BgLanZ2dnUVZ_qelnZ2d@comcast.com...
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> >> Sosumi wrote:
> >>> "Neil Harrington" <n....TakeThisOut@private.address> wrote in message
> >>>news:xtqdnZYjBtU39wLanZ2dnUVZ_uSgnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>>http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm
>
> >>> Is he blind? "Appears to replace the D80" ???Anyone can see from a
> >>> hundred yards it's a D40(x) body....
>
> >> I know. May have been a typo. It obviously is no replacement for the D80.
>
> > Thom Hogan has a nice write-up.
>
> >
> Thom Hogan usually uses reason, and I don't disagree, but he doesn't
> allow for the fact that new camera buyers often use emotion tempered by
> confusion, and are more likely to read Ken Rockwell than his site.
> I think that the D60 is a mistake - unless Nikon follows up soon with a
> D80 replacement with liveview, the big new lcd, & D300 sensor.

They probably realized anything better would cut into sales of the D80
and it's successor.
More and more I think the guy in the Brit mag Amateur Photography is
right, the bottom end will collapse in the DSLR market.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:21 pm
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Neil Harrington wrote:
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>

The D60 is (IMO) Nikon's first tactical blunder for a while.

The D40/x competed well against the Canon 400d. The 400d was/is a better
featured camera, but the differences perhaps weren't so obvious to a new
user to slrs. This time, comparing the D60 to the 450d, the 450d is a
much better featured camera, but this time it should be easy for a new
user to see that the D60 is out-specced by the Canon. The 450d looks
good, will have 12mp and liveview stamped all over the carton, and
although launch price for the D60 is a little lower than the 450d, Canon
have shown that they can be aggressive on price, and have indicated that
their goal is to retain #1 sales position in Japan. This year, I think
Canon will win.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:21 pm
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"Neil Harrington" <neil.TakeThisOut@private.address> wrote in message
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> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm

Is he blind? "Appears to replace the D80" ???Anyone can see from a hundred
yards it's a D40(x) body....
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:21 pm
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Sosumi wrote:
> "Neil Harrington" <neil.DeleteThis@private.address> wrote in message
> news:xtqdnZYjBtU39wLanZ2dnUVZ_uSgnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm
>
> Is he blind? "Appears to replace the D80" ???Anyone can see from a
> hundred yards it's a D40(x) body....

I know. May have been a typo. It obviously is no replacement for the D80.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:22 pm
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"Neil Harrington" <neil DeleteThis @private.address> wrote
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> Sosumi wrote:
>> "Neil Harrington" <neil DeleteThis @private.address> wrote in message
>> news:xtqdnZYjBtU39wLanZ2dnUVZ_uSgnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm
>>
>> Is he blind? "Appears to replace the D80" ???Anyone can see from a
>> hundred yards it's a D40(x) body....
>
> I know. May have been a typo. It obviously is no replacement for the D80.



Thom Hogan has a nice write-up.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:22 pm
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Neil Harrington wrote:
> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d60.htm
>
>
The other things announced are perhaps more interesting - three full
frame tilt-shift lenses for the D3 (or indeed, gnarly old film) - 24, 45
and 85mm.

http://www.dphotoexpert.com/2008/01/29/nikon-d60-and-tilt-shift-lenses...nounced

We had the news story up ready for the morning and by lunchtime had come
close to the transfer limit of the server with over 12,000 views of the
story. Amazing level of interest mainly in a very conservative camera spec.

But until the 10.2 megapixel CCD is tried out in its new 64-1600 ISO
incarnation, the image quality is unknown. Dropping the gain that much,
instead of going for 3200 as Sony has done with the A200, may produce
some real benefits in image quality - unless 64 is oversaturated.

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