Hasselblad 500C/M "LATE"

"Q.G. de Bakker" <qnu.RemoveThis@tiscali.nl> wrote:
> Bob Kirkpatrick wrote:
>
>>I have seen several references to a 500C/M "Late" model. I know that
>> Hasselblad went to a crank winder as standard on later models of the
>> 500C/M. Is there anything else that distinguishes a given 500C/M as a
>> "Late" model?
>
> The way the trim curves round the camera ready signal window: round on the
> old model, more angular on the later model.
> The tripod quick shoe and lower magazine hooks: two quite separate things
> on the old model, one metal part, running as a fork from underneath the
> tripod shoe to the hooks on the late model.
> The molding/surface of the rear baffles: hard to describe though.
>
> Not all changes will have been made at the same time.
> The cable hook hole on the camera's left side, for instance, disappeared
> before other changes were made.

When did the "T" coating get replaced with "T*"? Was that before, during, or
after the 500C/M?

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
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David J. Littleboy wrote:

> When did the "T" coating get replaced with "T*"? Was that before, during,
> or after the 500C/M?

Cameras, like the 500 C/M, do not have T- or T*-coatings...

The coating on the C lenses was changed during a period of years, with not
every lens type changing at the same time. The period spanned from
(approximately) 1970 - 1976.
The 500 C to C/M change was in 1969-1970.
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In article <4728a6e7$0$29655$dbd43001@news.wanadoo.nl>, Q.G. de Bakker
<qnu RemoveThis @tiscali.nl> wrote:

> The coating on the C lenses was changed during a period of years, with not
> every lens type changing at the same time. The period spanned from
> (approximately) 1970 - 1976.
> The 500 C to C/M change was in 1969-1970.

I bought my first Hasselblad in 1971. It's marked as a 500C, but is
really a C/M (as the screen is removable). It's probably a transition
model.
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Mr. Strat wrote:

> I bought my first Hasselblad in 1971. It's marked as a 500C, but is
> really a C/M (as the screen is removable). It's probably a transition
> model.

Pobably.
Have you checked the date code, and if so, what's the year it was
manufactured?
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In article <4728cad7$0$53525$dbd45001@news.wanadoo.nl>, Q.G. de Bakker
<qnu.DeleteThis@tiscali.nl> wrote:

> Mr. Strat wrote:
>
> > I bought my first Hasselblad in 1971. It's marked as a 500C, but is
> > really a C/M (as the screen is removable). It's probably a transition
> > model.
>
> Pobably.
> Have you checked the date code, and if so, what's the year it was
> manufactured?

I had to look...the serial number on the body starts with "US".
So...using VHPICTURES, that would make it 1970.
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Mr. Strat wrote:

> I had to look...the serial number on the body starts with "US".
> So...using VHPICTURES, that would make it 1970.

Bang on. So a "transitional" 500 C it is.
(Could not have been anything else really. )
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"Q.G. de Bakker" <qnu RemoveThis @tiscali.nl> wrote:
> David J. Littleboy wrote:
>
>> When did the "T" coating get replaced with "T*"? Was that before, during,
>> or after the 500C/M?
>
> Cameras, like the 500 C/M, do not have T- or T*-coatings...

When purchased as a kit, they come with a normal lens that does.

> The coating on the C lenses was changed during a period of years, with not
> every lens type changing at the same time. The period spanned from
> (approximately) 1970 - 1976.
> The 500 C to C/M change was in 1969-1970.

So when did the 80/2.8 kit lens switch from T to T*?

Which is relevant here, because "LATE" may (or may not) imply T* coatings on
the standard lens, and we haven't figured that out yet.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
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David J. Littleboy wrote:

>> Cameras, like the 500 C/M, do not have T- or T*-coatings...
>
> When purchased as a kit, they come with a normal lens that does.

But we're not discussing lenses...

>> The coating on the C lenses was changed during a period of years, with
>> not every lens type changing at the same time. The period spanned from
>> (approximately) 1970 - 1976.
>> The 500 C to C/M change was in 1969-1970.
>
> So when did the 80/2.8 kit lens switch from T to T*?

About 1971.

Well before the change from early C/M to late C/M.
But we're not discussing lenses.

> Which is relevant here, because "LATE" may (or may not) imply T* coatings
> on the standard lens, and we haven't figured that out yet.

Have we not?
Anyway, as you do know, lenses are interchangeable, and a camera that 30+
years later still has the original lens it came with is rather a rarity.
And by the time the 500 C/M changed a bit, all lenses had been T* coated.
In fact, the old lens line that had some single coated lenses earlier had
been replaced by a new line already.

Now you see why we are not discussing when lenses got T* coating?
Of no concern whatsoever when you want to know when a 500 C/M was 'revamp' a
bit.
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On Oct 31, 1:16 am, "Q.G. de Bakker" <q....RemoveThis@tiscali.nl> wrote:
> Bob Kirkpatrick wrote:
> >I have seen several references to a 500C/M "Late" model. I know that
> > Hasselblad went to a crank winder as standard on later models of the
> > 500C/M. Is there anything else that distinguishes a given 500C/M as a
> > "Late" model?
>
> The way the trim curves round the camera ready signal window: round on the
> old model, more angular on the later model.
> The tripod quick shoe and lower magazine hooks: two quite separate things on
> the old model, one metal part, running as a fork from underneath the tripod
> shoe to the hooks on the late model.
> The molding/surface of the rear baffles: hard to describe though.
>
> Not all changes will have been made at the same time.
> The cable hook hole on the camera's left side, for instance, disappeared
> before other changes were made.

Thanks for the information. I've looked through some old catalogs now
and I can see the difference although it's a little like the kid's
puzzle where four of the the six dogs are slightly different. It
appears that another change is the addition to later models of the
shutter pre-release/mirror lock-up button under the winder knob.
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Bob Kirkpatrick wrote:

> Thanks for the information. I've looked through some old catalogs now
> and I can see the difference although it's a little like the kid's
> puzzle where four of the the six dogs are slightly different. It
> appears that another change is the addition to later models of the
> shutter pre-release/mirror lock-up button under the winder knob.

Not so.
All 500 C(...) models have that button, though it was a bit shorter (and
perhaps harder to see) on earlier models.

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