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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:40 pm
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"timeOday" wrote in message
> Darrell wrote:
> > One of the
> > better CD-R is Delkin's
<font color=green> > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.delkin.com/delkin_news_press_release.php?id=37</font" target="_blank">http://www.delkin.com/delkin_news_press_release.php?id=37</font</a>>
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> Nice link, it's good to see somebody focusing on quality and longevity.
> I wonder if they will make DVDs though, CDR is getting small for
> uncompressed high-megapixel photos.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:40 pm
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Greetings Mort,
Sounds like you have a great camera there, digital is amazing.
Sorry to learn that you did not get good service from your printing efforts,
however, did you ever try a different processor? Might make a difference if
you use your camera in the future.
Good luck with digital, you are going to enjoy it. By the way, the Kodak
EasyShare software that is included with Kodak cameras includes directly
links to processors to make it easy to print on your home printer, or via
their digital services which are really pretty good. You may want to
experiment with them some time. Also, once you upload your images to Ofoto,
you can store them online and share them with others etc. if you like. They
will also make lots of variations on your images including making a CD.
You should be able to burn a CD of your digital images in JPG or any other
format. The key to reading image files is in the software you use, not so
much the CDBurner.
Talk to you soon, Mort,
Happy Holidays
Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company
"mort" wrote in message
> After 8 years of using my Elph and Elph 2 cameras, I have finally
> succumbed to the siren song of digital, inspired by Kodak's worsening
> processing of APS and their taking longer and longer to deliver the
> prints and reprints, all with the data on the back smeared and
> illegible.
>
> I bought a 5MP Canon S500 Digital Elph. The pictures are sharper than
> the APS, I can print them on my home printer whenever I want to, and
> even the 8.5 x 11 " prints are sharp, with good color. Kodak seems to
> be in a downward spiral of withdrawing from conventional film, while
> not making great strides in the digital world.
>
> I'm planning to download images from my camera's CF cards to my PC, and
> then burning them to CD-R as data. Will this work, considering that my
> camera does only JPEG? Will I then be able to make prints from the CD-R?
> CD-R storage seems to be safer, and infinitely cheaper, than storage on
> CF cards.Thanks.
>
> Morton
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:38 pm
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Chris Brown wrote:
>> Darrell wrote:
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>>> APS, the let's reinvent the wheel. Kodak last attempt was "Disc
>>> Film" in the early 1980's. Kodak has NEVER got it right, IMHO they
>>> surprise me they haven't gone bankrupt. They are a history of.. well
>>> stupidity! Let's see a few highlights;
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>> 126 Instamatic in the 1960s; 110 in the '70s; Disc in the '80s; APS
>> in the '90s
>
> Let's not forget 620.
I remember processing a couple rolls of 116 (think I have that right...)
back in the mid '70s - looked like sticks of dynamite, they were so big!
Bob ^,,^ >> Stay informed about: Goodbye to APS, and Question About CD-Rs. |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:59 pm
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"Bob Harrington" <rch.NOS-PAM.TakeThisOut@blarg.net> wrote:
> 126 Instamatic in the 1960s;
The first 6 or 7 years of my >30-year-old archive is in 126 format. I then
switched to 35mm.
I sure would like to learn of a negative scanning solution for my 126 negs.
<sigh>
JR >> Stay informed about: Goodbye to APS, and Question About CD-Rs. |
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:40 pm
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Everything written in this thread so far is probably true. That being said,
however, I really enjoyed using my Canon Elph 2 (IXUS 2, Outside North
America, I believe) and I felt the photos were great considering the format
and ease of use of the camera. It reignited my interest in photography
after a hiatus of almost 30 years so it can't be too bad.
I still use it occasionally just for fun, and the local photofinishers
around here (Central Illinois) do a pretty good job. Would I use if for
serious photography? Probably not, especially if I expected to print larger
than 8X10. But as a "tag-along" camera it's been great.
"Jeremy" wrote in message
>
> > After 8 years of using my Elph and Elph 2 cameras, I have finally
> > succumbed to the siren song of digital, inspired by Kodak's worsening
> > processing of APS and their taking longer and longer to deliver the
> > prints and reprints, all with the data on the back smeared and
> > illegible.
> >
>
> I believe that you've missed the point. APS was never marketed toward
> serious amateurs. It was an attempt to serve the consumer market, with a
> format that was near idiot-proof.
>
> Studies revealed that there were a significant number of consumers that
> couldn't even get their 35mm film loaded correctly. APS addressed that
> problem.
>
> APS also exploited the recent advances in wide exposure latitude films, by
> allowing for a simple camera, without much in the way of exposure control,
> to record the image on the film, and for the lab to then correct for
> exposure at the processing level.
>
> All of this was just a continuation of Kodak's long-held objective of
making
> photography easy for consumers. ("You push the button, we do the rest").
> That was a laudable objective. It was NOT meant as a replacement format
for
> serious amateurs or professionals. I defy you to show me where Kodak ever
> marketed the format to any but consumer purchasers.
>
> The APS format was stymied by the advent of inexpensive 35mm Point & Shoot
> cameras, that featured autofocus and sophisticated on-board automatic
> exposure controls. I doubt that Kodak and Fuji would have developed APS
had
> the autoexposure P&S cameras come out just a few years earlier than they
> did. Those P&S models even made loading film a fairly automated task.
And
> with the advent of P&S cameras with zoom lenses, it really made the APS
> format irrelevant.
>
> Kodak has had a long record of trying to bring photography to the masses.
> Granted, those of us that have more sophisticated equipment tend to look
> down on those consumer formats. But they have served to put photography
> into the mainstream, and have made it possible for the rest of us to be
able
> to buy film and to get it processed at countless locations.
>
> It also enabled many of us to get exposed to photography at an early age.
> Would I have become interested in photography, had my parents not owned a
> Brownie Starmite? I wonder . . .
>
> There are many millions of family photos, shot on simple cameras, that
> survive today. They make no pretense to being "professional." Yet my old
> family photos, many of which were taken before I was even born, are among
my
> most cherished possessions.
>
> Thank you, Kodak.
>
> >> Stay informed about: Goodbye to APS, and Question About CD-Rs. |
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:13 pm
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Hi Ron,
I tried replying directly to your URL, and it bounced back due to an endless
loop at Kodak. Anyhow, I used Kodak film from the 1939-40 N.Y.World's Fair on,
and still have many great Kodachrome slides from my 6 year residence in Europe.
Two things finally rang the curtain on APS for me. First, the ID # and frame #
and date on the print back were either smudged or absent, requiring me to spend
hours doing them by hand. Then Kodak shut their NJ and CT labs, so that 2 day
turnaround time became 5-6 day.
Anyhow, thanks again for your nice reply.
Morton
Ron Baird wrote:
> Greetings Mort,
>
> Sounds like you have a great camera there, digital is amazing.
>
> Sorry to learn that you did not get good service from your printing efforts,
> however, did you ever try a different processor? Might make a difference if
> you use your camera in the future.
>
> Good luck with digital, you are going to enjoy it. By the way, the Kodak
> EasyShare software that is included with Kodak cameras includes directly
> links to processors to make it easy to print on your home printer, or via
> their digital services which are really pretty good. You may want to
> experiment with them some time. Also, once you upload your images to Ofoto,
> you can store them online and share them with others etc. if you like. They
> will also make lots of variations on your images including making a CD.
>
> You should be able to burn a CD of your digital images in JPG or any other
> format. The key to reading image files is in the software you use, not so
> much the CDBurner.
>
> Talk to you soon, Mort,
>
> Happy Holidays
> Ron Baird
> Eastman Kodak Company
>
> > After 8 years of using my Elph and Elph 2 cameras, I have finally
> > succumbed to the siren song of digital, inspired by Kodak's worsening
> > processing of APS and their taking longer and longer to deliver the
> > prints and reprints, all with the data on the back smeared and
> > illegible.
> >
> > I bought a 5MP Canon S500 Digital Elph. The pictures are sharper than
> > the APS, I can print them on my home printer whenever I want to, and
> > even the 8.5 x 11 " prints are sharp, with good color. Kodak seems to
> > be in a downward spiral of withdrawing from conventional film, while
> > not making great strides in the digital world.
> >
> > I'm planning to download images from my camera's CF cards to my PC, and
> > then burning them to CD-R as data. Will this work, considering that my
> > camera does only JPEG? Will I then be able to make prints from the CD-R?
> > CD-R storage seems to be safer, and infinitely cheaper, than storage on
> > CF cards.Thanks.
> >
> > Morton
> > >> Stay informed about: Goodbye to APS, and Question About CD-Rs. |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:17 pm
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In article ,
Jim Redelfs wrote:
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> > 126 Instamatic in the 1960s;
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> The first 6 or 7 years of my >30-year-old archive is in 126 format. I then
> switched to 35mm.
>
> I sure would like to learn of a negative scanning solution for my 126 negs.
126 negatives are 35mm in width. the problem is finding a negative
carrier that masks the image properly. >> Stay informed about: Goodbye to APS, and Question About CD-Rs. |
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:40 pm
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Bob Harrington wrote:
> Chris Brown wrote:
>
>>
>>>Darrell wrote:
>>
>>>>APS, the let's reinvent the wheel. Kodak last attempt was "Disc
>>>>Film" in the early 1980's. Kodak has NEVER got it right, IMHO they
>>>>surprise me they haven't gone bankrupt. They are a history of.. well
>>>>stupidity! Let's see a few highlights;
>>>
>>>126 Instamatic in the 1960s; 110 in the '70s; Disc in the '80s; APS
>>>in the '90s
>>
>>Let's not forget 620.
>
>
> I remember processing a couple rolls of 116 (think I have that right...)
> back in the mid '70s - looked like sticks of dynamite, they were so big!
>
> Bob ^,,^
>
>
>
I had an 828 folding camera in the early 60s. As I recall, it was 35mm
size roll film. >> Stay informed about: Goodbye to APS, and Question About CD-Rs. |
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