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Monica Schulz

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:18 am
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dear ng,

just beginng to dive into the subject matter of the negative-positive
process I stumbled upon the data sheets of Kodak color printing papers
and wondered why they all show such steep characteristic curves.
Shouldnīt their gamma value be around 1,4 so that in combination with
the negative there is a gamma of 1? Is this just because people love
prints with so much snap?

Best!
Monica

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Ken Hart

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:26 pm
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"Monica Schulz" <monica.schulz RemoveThis @gmx.org> wrote in message
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dear ng,

just beginng to dive into the subject matter of the negative-positive
process I stumbled upon the data sheets of Kodak color printing papers
and wondered why they all show such steep characteristic curves.
Shouldnīt their gamma value be around 1,4 so that in combination with
the negative there is a gamma of 1? Is this just because people love
prints with so much snap?


Typically, the amatuer papers (Kodak Royal, for example) have high contrast
because the amatuer cameras don't have good contrast lenses. If you want a
lower contrast paper, try the pro types, like Kodak Endura's. The pro types
will usually have the 'do not copy' messge on the back.

If you are just starting color printing, here are two helpful hints: 1. Get
the density right, then go for the color balance. 2. Write down your
printing exposure.

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Monica Schulz

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:56 pm
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On 16 Jan., 20:26, "Ken Hart" <kwha....DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote:

> Typically, the amatuer papers (Kodak Royal, for example) have high contrast
> because the amatuer cameras don't have good contrast lenses. If you want a
> lower contrast paper, try the pro types, like Kodak Endura's.

Well, I looked at the curves of Kodak Ektacolor Edge and Kodak
Professional Pro Image and if I measure the slope of the straight
section and take the tangent I find a gamma of more than 3. Thatīs
what astonishes me but maybe Iīm wrong somehow?!

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:02 pm
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In article <c7ac9360-df1c-4ecb-bae9-ec890540b6d6.TakeThisOut@c23g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Monica Schulz <monica.schulz.TakeThisOut@gmx.org> wrote:
>On 16 Jan., 20:26, "Ken Hart" <kwha....TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Typically, the amatuer papers (Kodak Royal, for example) have high contrast
>> because the amatuer cameras don't have good contrast lenses. If you want a
>> lower contrast paper, try the pro types, like Kodak Endura's.
>
>Well, I looked at the curves of Kodak Ektacolor Edge and Kodak
>Professional Pro Image and if I measure the slope of the straight
>section and take the tangent I find a gamma of more than 3. Thatīs
>what astonishes me but maybe Iīm wrong somehow?!

Edge is the highest-contrast paper Kodak makes. If they still make it,
Portra is the paper you want for most professional use (the medium-contrast
paper in sheets is, or was, "Supra", and the high-contrast one "Ultra").

Pro Image is made for laser recording in machines like the Frontier, isn't
it? Those systems adjust the image digitally so almost any paper contrast
will work so long as the curves of the paper are known.

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Thor Lancelot Simon tls.TakeThisOut@rek.tjls.com

"The inconsistency is startling, though admittedly, if consistency is to
be abandoned or transcended, there is no problem." - Noam Chomsky
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