Contax is NOT Dead

 > That is good news. I'd hate to see a quality brand go down the tubes...
 >
 > George
 >
 >

True, but they should do a lot of innovation in order to keep up with
the competition (there are a lot of competitors...).

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George wrote:

  > > The release announces the appointment of ToCad as the exclusive
 > distributor
  > > of Contax and indicates that Kyocera is committed to focusing on Contax
as
  > > their primary digital imaging line.
  > >
  > > Sometimes it pays to go to the horses mouth.
  > >
  > > Walt Hanks
  > >
  > >
 >
 > That is good news. I'd hate to see a quality brand go down the tubes...

It's even more painful to see how a quality brand is reduced to a label on
consumer grade digital products.
The brand Contax would be better of dead.
Now it will die anyway, but not until it has been deflated fully. That's
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"George" <nowhere.RemoveThis@newsonly.com> wrote in message
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  > > The release announces the appointment of ToCad as the exclusive
 > distributor
  > >
  > > of Contax and indicates that Kyocera is committed to focusing on Contax
as
  > > their primary digital imaging line.
  > >
  > > Sometimes it pays to go to the horses mouth.
  > >
  > > Walt Hanks
  > >
  > >
 >
 > That is good news. I'd hate to see a quality brand go down the tubes...
 >
 > George
 >
It's just a name, there hasn't been a Contax for years.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Walt Hanks" <walthanks.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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 > Here is a statement I received today from Kyocera's PR office:.
 >
 > *******************
 > Dear Sir,
 >
 > No the info on the web is not correct. If you go to <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.kyoceraimaging.com" target="_blank">www.kyoceraimaging.com</a> on the home
 > page there is a press release dated February 20th describing what should have be stated
 > on the web. The info quoted on the web is incorrect and we are working to have the
 > correct info posted.
 >
 > Thank you,
 >
 > Nick Cheremsak
 >
 > *******************
 > The release announces the appointment of ToCad as the exclusive distributor of Contax
 > and indicates that Kyocera is committed to focusing on Contax as their primary digital
 > imaging line.
 >
 > Sometimes it pays to go to the horses mouth.
 >
 > Walt Hanks

I think it is highly possible that the message you received came from someone interested
primarily in unloading store rooms full of Contax products...<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 15:31:21 -0500, "George" <nowhere DeleteThis @newsonly.com>
wrote:

 >
 >"Walt Hanks" <walthanks DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
 >news:_c6dnfYxU9DgmLPfRVn-rg@comcast.com...
  >> Here is a statement I received today from Kyocera's PR office:.
  >>
  >> *******************
  >> Dear Sir,
  >>
  >> No the info on the web is not correct. If you go to
 >www.kyoceraimaging.com
  >> on the home page there is a press release dated February 20th describing
  >> what should have be stated on the web. The info quoted on the web is
  >> incorrect and we are working to have the correct info posted.
  >>
  >> Thank you,
  >>
  >> Nick Cheremsak
  >>
  >> *******************
  >> The release announces the appointment of ToCad as the exclusive
 >distributor
  >> of Contax and indicates that Kyocera is committed to focusing on Contax as
  >> their primary digital imaging line.
  >>
  >> Sometimes it pays to go to the horses mouth.
  >>
  >> Walt Hanks
  >>
  >>
 >
 >That is good news. I'd hate to see a quality brand go down the tubes...
 >
 >George
 >

The originating website owner can be sued for this.
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"RichA" <none.DeleteThis@none.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > The originating website owner can be sued for this.
 > -Rich

You can sue anybody for anything, but to prevail Kyocera would have to show
that the web site owner knew or should have known that his statements were
false. Given that his information was received directly from sources at
Kyocera that would be very hard to prove. I suspect that there is some
confusion and speculation going on within the company and it is getting out
to various people in garbled form. Kyocera would have no justification for
suing people when they can't control what their own personnel are saying.

Then, too, any target of a lawsuit would have to be worth going after. A web
site owner does not necessarily have deep enough pockets to make a lawsuit
worthwhile.

Finally, few camera companies would like a reputation for suing reviewers.
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"George" <nowhere RemoveThis @newsonly.com> wrote in message
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 >
  > > *******************
  > > The release announces the appointment of ToCad as the exclusive
 > distributor
  > > of Contax and indicates that Kyocera is committed to focusing on Contax
as
  > > their primary digital imaging line.
  > >

That is gratifying to hear, BUT . . .

Doesn't it seem strange that they would shut down their production lines,
rather than sell the entire operation and keep production running?

I'm glad that they have a distributor, but who the hell is going to
MANUFACTURE the stuff?

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"C J Campbell" <christophercampbellNOSPAM.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote
 > "RichA" <none.RemoveThis@none.com> wrote in message
  >> The originating website owner can be sued for this.

 > You can sue anybody for anything, but to prevail Kyocera would have to
 > show
 > that the web site owner knew or should have known that his statements were
 > false.

If, in fact, they are. The dis-information may well be coming from the USA
distributor, who very likely has a warehouse full of unsold product that
they would like to sell at top dollar. Given the choice of believing the
USA distributor's web or Phil's DPreview web, I find that the latter is the
disinterested, and consequently, presumed honest source of accurate
information. While I would certainly like to see Contax and Yashica
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In article <AZWdnZbxDdS7wLPfRVn-rg DeleteThis @comcast.com>, jfitz DeleteThis @bigfoot.com says...
 > "C J Campbell" <christophercampbellNOSPAM DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote
  > > "RichA" <none DeleteThis @none.com> wrote in message
   > >> The originating website owner can be sued for this.
 >
  > > You can sue anybody for anything, but to prevail Kyocera would have to
  > > show
  > > that the web site owner knew or should have known that his statements were
  > > false.
 >
 > If, in fact, they are. The dis-information may well be coming from the USA
 > distributor, who very likely has a warehouse full of unsold product that
 > they would like to sell at top dollar. Given the choice of believing the
 > USA distributor's web or Phil's DPreview web, I find that the latter is the
 > disinterested, and consequently, presumed honest source of accurate
 > information. While I would certainly like to see Contax and Yashica
 > continue, I fear that may not be the case.
 >
 >
 >
 >

I hate to agree with anything sounding like even a MINI conspiracy, but I
have to agree with this post.

Until and unless I see some indication that someone is actually making more
Contax cameras, I will consider it a dead company.


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"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Walt Hanks" <walthanks DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
 > news:_c6dnfYxU9DgmLPfRVn-rg@comcast.com...
  >> Here is a statement I received today from Kyocera's PR office:.
  >>
  >> *******************
  >> Dear Sir,
  >>
  >> No the info on the web is not correct. If you go to
  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.kyoceraimaging.com" target="_blank">www.kyoceraimaging.com</a> on the home page there is a press release dated
  >> February 20th describing what should have be stated on the web. The info
  >> quoted on the web is incorrect and we are working to have the correct
  >> info posted.
  >>
  >> Thank you,
  >>
  >> Nick Cheremsak
  >>
  >> *******************
  >> The release announces the appointment of ToCad as the exclusive
  >> distributor of Contax and indicates that Kyocera is committed to focusing
  >> on Contax as their primary digital imaging line.
  >>
  >> Sometimes it pays to go to the horses mouth.
  >>
  >> Walt Hanks
 >
 > I think it is highly possible that the message you received came from
 > someone interested primarily in unloading store rooms full of Contax
 > products...
 >

Think what you want. I never cease to be amazed at the ability of Usenet to
create controversy where none exists and find conspiracy in every corner.
Mr. Cheremsak is Kyocera's PR officer, not ToCad's.

Try going to Kyocera's site and finding any announcement of the sort that
was posted by dpreview. You won't find it. Doesn't THAT strike you as odd?

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"Walt Hanks" <walthanks.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
 > news:VwtXd.21737$FM3.1680@fed1read02...
  >>
  >> "Walt Hanks" <walthanks.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
  >> news:_c6dnfYxU9DgmLPfRVn-rg@comcast.com...
   >>> Here is a statement I received today from Kyocera's PR office:.
   >>>
   >>> *******************
   >>> Dear Sir,
   >>>
   >>> No the info on the web is not correct. If you go to <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.kyoceraimaging.com" target="_blank">www.kyoceraimaging.com</a> on the
   >>> home page there is a press release dated February 20th describing what should have be
   >>> stated on the web. The info quoted on the web is incorrect and we are working to have
   >>> the correct info posted.
   >>>
   >>> Thank you,
   >>>
   >>> Nick Cheremsak
   >>>
   >>> *******************
   >>> The release announces the appointment of ToCad as the exclusive distributor of Contax
   >>> and indicates that Kyocera is committed to focusing on Contax as their primary digital
   >>> imaging line.
   >>>
   >>> Sometimes it pays to go to the horses mouth.
   >>>
   >>> Walt Hanks
  >>
  >> I think it is highly possible that the message you received came from someone
  >> interested primarily in unloading store rooms full of Contax products...
  >>
 >
 > Think what you want. I never cease to be amazed at the ability of Usenet to create
 > controversy where none exists and find conspiracy in every corner. Mr. Cheremsak is
 > Kyocera's PR officer, not ToCad's.

What "conspiracy"??
I'm no consiracy theorist. I'm just aware that one e-mail...from one guy...tht
contradicts a number of articles from legitimate sources is often shown to be just
that--just one e-mail from one guy who is full of crap.

I don't know that this is the case in this instance, but it's certainly a possiblity.

 >
 > Try going to Kyocera's site and finding any announcement of the sort that was posted by
 > dpreview. You won't find it. Doesn't THAT strike you as odd?

Leaks happen all the time.
Why does that strike YOU as odd?
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C J Campbell wrote:


 > Then, too, any target of a lawsuit would have to be worth going after. A web
 > site owner does not necessarily have deep enough pockets to make a lawsuit
 > worthwhile.

It may seem odd to some but I'm aware of one person that sometimes
couldn't care less about any monetary award provided by a favourable
court ruling. Sometimes he sues simply because someone else desperately
deserved to be buried in paperwork for the next ten years - eating beans
six nights out of seven because the attorney fees won't afford better.
If one can't afford to be sued, maybe one should learn to keep their
hands to themself.


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In rec.photo.equipment.35mm C J Campbell <christophercampbellNOSPAM.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
 > "RichA" <none.RemoveThis@none.com> wrote in message
 > news:n4is2110ae1a6i6v91oqcipciu8b58vo7f@4ax.com...
  > >
  > > The originating website owner can be sued for this.
  > > -Rich
 >
 > You can sue anybody for anything, but to prevail Kyocera would have to show
 > that the web site owner knew or should have known that his statements were
 > false. Given that his information was received directly from sources at
 > Kyocera that would be very hard to prove. I suspect that there is some

Thats what he claims anyways.

 > confusion and speculation going on within the company and it is getting out
 > to various people in garbled form. Kyocera would have no justification for
 > suing people when they can't control what their own personnel are saying.

Wrong. If you distribute information you receive from non-oficial channels
within the company the comapny can perfectly well sue you and win. The sole
exception is if they ordered the information to be distributed themselves.

 >
 > Then, too, any target of a lawsuit would have to be worth going after. A web
 > site owner does not necessarily have deep enough pockets to make a lawsuit
 > worthwhile.

He might still have house and car and hamster and ...

 >
 > Finally, few camera companies would like a reputation for suing reviewers.
 > Reviews of their cameras would dry up very fast.
 >

Reviewers that do significant PR damage are probably not worth having.

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