Colour to black and white

 >From: total_utter_carp.RemoveThis@yahoo.com (n)

 >People have suggested that the following workflow provides more
 >control but i don't see how:
 >
 >Layer
 >new adjustment layer
 >hue / saturation
 >
 >If we want the picture in black and white does this mean just get to
 >here and ramp saturation down to zero and then the colour is gone?

This is one way to do it but not a very good one ... seems to kill off the
sparkle or something.

The simplest way is to just convert to Grayscale but this uses a fixed % of
each channel for the conversion, something like 59% Green, 30 % Red, 11% Blue
IIRC ... sometimes this is the right mix, usually it isn't optimal.

For most control try the Channel Mixer in monochrome mode. Channel Mixer lets
you set the % for each channel to get the best result.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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It allows you to change your mind and do it another way. In going from
colour to b/w however I prefer other methods which allow much better control
than that. The Channel Mixere provides one - it is only one way but if you
save the original colour file to a different name you will still have it and
can even use it to make masks etc that you can use on the b/w file, etc

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"n" <total_utter_carp.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > People have suggested that the following workflow provides more
 > control but i don't see how:
 >
 > Layer
 > new adjustment layer
 > hue / saturation
 >
 > If we want the picture in black and white does this mean just get to
 > here and ramp saturation down to zero and then the colour is gone?
 >
 > I can see that playing around with the hue gives the effect of colour
 > filters but i think any tweaking there is lost if we just slide
 > saturation to the left...
 >
 > Please enlighten me <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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An infinitely better way is to use PS plugin filters which mimic
monochrome film and really give some sparkle to your images.
e.g. the NIK filters from nikmultimedia.com. They also supply many other
filters. The sunshine and polarisation simulators are particularly effective
for both monochrome and colour.

Graham


"n" <total_utter_carp RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > People have suggested that the following workflow provides more
 > control but i don't see how:
 >
 > Layer
 > new adjustment layer
 > hue / saturation
 >
 > If we want the picture in black and white does this mean just get to
 > here and ramp saturation down to zero and then the colour is gone?
 >
 > I can see that playing around with the hue gives the effect of colour
 > filters but i think any tweaking there is lost if we just slide
 > saturation to the left...
 >
 > Please enlighten me <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Colour to black and white 

n wrote:
 > People have suggested that the following workflow provides more
 > control but i don't see how:
 >
 > Layer
 > new adjustment layer
 > hue / saturation
 >
 > If we want the picture in black and white does this mean just get to
 > here and ramp saturation down to zero and then the colour is gone?
 >
 > I can see that playing around with the hue gives the effect of colour
 > filters but i think any tweaking there is lost if we just slide
 > saturation to the left...
 >
 > Please enlighten me

Sure you can use Channel Mixer and you can buy plugins that will give
you more control. However, you don't really need to go through the
trouble and expense. Here is a method that I found is easier to do that
Channel Mixer and quicker too. It also gives you VERY fine control over
what colors get converted into what shades of gray.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.russellbrown.com/body.html" target="_blank">http://www.russellbrown.com/body.html</a>

Go to "More Tips" and view the movie "Seeing in Black & White".

Clyde<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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