People in Casinos

"McWave" <guest RemoveThis @mail.com> wrote in message
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 > Here are some photos taken in casinos in Las Vegas. I tried to capture the
 > modes and actions of people.
 >
 > 1. Around table
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 >
 > 2. Adding stakes
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 >
 > 3. Drawing
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 >
 > 4. Drinking alone
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 >
 > The gallery is at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/lasvegas." target="_blank">http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/lasvegas.</a> Please click on
 > "original" if the photos are not sharp.
 >
 > Welcome to share your comments!

If you didn't have permission you may have a problem. You might have needed
a signed property release to take photos on their property. I recommend you
remove the photos until such time as you can get permission/release from the
casinos.
Good Luck,
me

PS: If you attempt to sell these photos for commercial purposes without a
release you may (probably?) be sued.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Are you sure about this? For example, if I take pictures inside some private
properties such as a hotel or a restaurant, will I meet problems?

Thanks

"me" <anonymous.TakeThisOut@_.com> wrote in message
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 > "McWave" <guest.TakeThisOut@mail.com> wrote in message
 > news:cskh7n$v6u$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
  >> Here are some photos taken in casinos in Las Vegas. I tried to capture
  >> the
  >> modes and actions of people.
  >>
  >> 1. Around table
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38759660</font" target="_blank">http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38759660</font</a>>
  >>
  >> 2. Adding stakes
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38759672</font" target="_blank">http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38759672</font</a>>
  >>
  >> 3. Drawing
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38714060</font" target="_blank">http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38714060</font</a>>
  >>
  >> 4. Drinking alone
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38714093</font" target="_blank">http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38714093</font</a>>
  >>
  >> The gallery is at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/lasvegas." target="_blank">http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/lasvegas.</a> Please click on
  >> "original" if the photos are not sharp.
  >>
  >> Welcome to share your comments!
 >
 > If you didn't have permission you may have a problem. You might have
 > needed
 > a signed property release to take photos on their property. I recommend
 > you
 > remove the photos until such time as you can get permission/release from
 > the
 > casinos.
 > Good Luck,
 > me
 >
 > PS: If you attempt to sell these photos for commercial purposes without a
 > release you may (probably?) be sued.
 >
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"McWave" <guest DeleteThis @mail.com> wrote in message
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 > "me" <anonymous DeleteThis @_.com> wrote in message
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  > > "McWave" <guest DeleteThis @mail.com> wrote in message
  > > news:cskh7n$v6u$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
   > >> Here are some photos taken in casinos in Las Vegas. I tried to capture
   > >> the
   > >> modes and actions of people.
   > >>
   > >> 1. Around table
<font color=brown>   > >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38759660</font" target="_blank">http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38759660</font</a>>
   > >>
   > >> 2. Adding stakes
<font color=brown>   > >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38759672</font" target="_blank">http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38759672</font</a>>
   > >>
   > >> 3. Drawing
<font color=brown>   > >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38714060</font" target="_blank">http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38714060</font</a>>
   > >>
   > >> 4. Drinking alone
<font color=brown>   > >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38714093</font" target="_blank">http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/image/38714093</font</a>>
   > >>
   > >> The gallery is at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/lasvegas." target="_blank">http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/lasvegas.</a> Please click on
   > >> "original" if the photos are not sharp.
   > >>
   > >> Welcome to share your comments!
  > >
  > > If you didn't have permission you may have a problem. You might have
  > > needed
  > > a signed property release to take photos on their property. I recommend
  > > you
  > > remove the photos until such time as you can get permission/release from
  > > the
  > > casinos.
  > > Good Luck,
  > > me
  > >
  > > PS: If you attempt to sell these photos for commercial purposes without
a
  > > release you may (probably?) be sued.
 >
 > Are you sure about this? For example, if I take pictures inside some
private
 > properties such as a hotel or a restaurant, will I meet problems?
 >
 > Thanks

If you are on private property you should always seek permission *before*
taking photos. Getting permission/release avoids problems and is ethically
correct. If you obtain a release you have the opportunity to use your photos
for commercial purposes. You may also need a release from anyone whose face
is recognizable if the photo will be used for commercial purposes.
Good Luck,
me<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Thank you for your advices. Sure it is necessary to get permissions before
using anyone's photo for commercial purposes. But for non-commercial
purposes, it is OK. Actually there are millions of people's faces shown on
different photos taken on streets, parks, beaches, etc.

Thanks

 >
 > If you are on private property you should always seek permission *before*
 > taking photos. Getting permission/release avoids problems and is ethically
 > correct. If you obtain a release you have the opportunity to use your
 > photos
 > for commercial purposes. You may also need a release from anyone whose
 > face
 > is recognizable if the photo will be used for commercial purposes.
 > Good Luck,
 > me
 >
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In article <csn855$qb8$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>, "McWave" <guest.DeleteThis@mail.com>
wrote:

 > Are you sure about this? For example, if I take pictures inside some private
 > properties such as a hotel or a restaurant, will I meet problems?
 >
 > Thanks


  > > PS: If you attempt to sell these photos for commercial purposes without a
  > > release you may (probably?) be sued.

Anon is correct. & I am really surprised that the casinos even let you
do them, I am surprised since its not a public but private property
that you didn't get bounced beat up or arrested.

You could also be shot. Think about who goes to casinos, stranger things
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OK. I think you guys are right. Although it is not a big problem to shoot in
many private places such as restaurants or hotels, casinos may be really
unwilling to see their photos published. I have removed all photos involving
people gambling or slot machines. Hope now they are OK.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/lasvegas" target="_blank">http://www.pbase.com/mcwave/lasvegas</a>

Thanks

"Inaccessible" <pandemonium.DeleteThis@pitchedpipes.com> wrote in message
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 > In article <csn855$qb8$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>, "McWave" <guest.DeleteThis@mail.com>
 > wrote:
 >
  >> Are you sure about this? For example, if I take pictures inside some
  >> private
  >> properties such as a hotel or a restaurant, will I meet problems?
  >>
  >> Thanks
 >
 >
   >> > PS: If you attempt to sell these photos for commercial purposes without
   >> > a
   >> > release you may (probably?) be sued.
 >
 > Anon is correct. & I am really surprised that the casinos even let you
 > do them, I am surprised since its not a public but private property
 > that you didn't get bounced beat up or arrested.
 >
 > You could also be shot. Think about who goes to casinos, stranger things
 > have happened.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: People in Casinos 

"McWave" <guest DeleteThis @mail.com> wrote in message
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  > > If you are on private property you should always seek permission
*before*
  > > taking photos. Getting permission/release avoids problems and is
ethically
  > > correct. If you obtain a release you have the opportunity to use your
  > > photos
  > > for commercial purposes. You may also need a release from anyone whose
  > > face
  > > is recognizable if the photo will be used for commercial purposes.
  > > Good Luck,
  > > me
 >
 > Thank you for your advices. Sure it is necessary to get permissions before
 > using anyone's photo for commercial purposes. But for non-commercial
 > purposes, it is OK. Actually there are millions of people's faces shown on
 > different photos taken on streets, parks, beaches, etc.
 > Thanks

I myself am *very* cautious about how I use photos of people without a
release. I also consider it to be a point of ethics, I ask myself "How would
I want my face used?" YMMV and it obviously does. This is a slippery slope
that I fear to go down without good legal and moral justification.
Good Luck,
me

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"McWave" <guest RemoveThis @mail.com> wrote in message
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 > Are you sure about this? For example, if I take pictures inside some
private
 > properties such as a hotel or a restaurant, will I meet problems?
 >
 > Thanks
 >
YES. Did you know that photographers have been sued for photographing the
famous
"Lone Cypress" tree in Carmel, CA? You do not have a right to photograph
private property
for personal gain. I am REALLY surprised that you got a camera into and out
of a casino.
Many people DO NOT want to be seen gambling and casinos don't want to
discourage
anyone from dropping a bundle there, so they have very strict rules about
photography.

George<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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In article <jvySd.18359$jP7.16352@fe06.lga>, nowhere.DeleteThis@newsonly.com
says...
 >
 > "McWave" <guest.DeleteThis@mail.com> wrote in message
 > news:csn855$qb8$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
  > > Are you sure about this? For example, if I take pictures inside some
 > private
  > > properties such as a hotel or a restaurant, will I meet problems?
  > >
  > > Thanks
  > >
 > YES. Did you know that photographers have been sued for photographing the
 > famous
 > "Lone Cypress" tree in Carmel, CA? You do not have a right to photograph
 > private property
 > for personal gain. I am REALLY surprised that you got a camera into and out
 > of a casino.
 > Many people DO NOT want to be seen gambling and casinos don't want to
 > discourage
 > anyone from dropping a bundle there, so they have very strict rules about
 > photography.

All of that is true. However, couple of years ago I shot a wedding at
Las Vegas's Bellagio Casino. Nice place. What happens several times a
day there is that the elevator doors open and a bride and her party will
burst out and start a mad dash through the slot machines and tables to
the wedding chapel. This is met with enthusiastic cheering from the
casino crowd.

I shot this part by running ahead of the party, squatting to a three-
point shooting position, and taking a shot. Run ahead and repeat. I
even shot a couple in natural light, pulling the zoom to streak and blur
all the flashy gambling lights on either side of the bridal party.

While I was doing this I fully expected a heavy hand to land on my
shoulder, and we were anything but sly or subtle. To the contrary, I saw
security clearing folks away ahead of our path. Obviously they see this
kind of thing a lot. Not something you can rely on, but that's how it
played out.

Marc<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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In article <MPG.1c84a07173b1799c989866 RemoveThis @nnrp1.phx1.gblx.net>,
Marc 182 <marc182spamless RemoveThis @globalcrossing.net> wrote:

 > All of that is true. However, couple of years ago I shot a wedding at
 > Las Vegas's Bellagio Casino. Nice place. What happens several times a
 > day there is that the elevator doors open and a bride and her party will
 > burst out and start a mad dash through the slot machines and tables to
 > the wedding chapel. This is met with enthusiastic cheering from the
 > casino crowd.
 >
 > I shot this part by running ahead of the party, squatting to a three-
 > point shooting position, and taking a shot. Run ahead and repeat. I
 > even shot a couple in natural light, pulling the zoom to streak and blur
 > all the flashy gambling lights on either side of the bridal party.
 >
 > While I was doing this I fully expected a heavy hand to land on my
 > shoulder, and we were anything but sly or subtle. To the contrary, I saw
 > security clearing folks away ahead of our path. Obviously they see this
 > kind of thing a lot. Not something you can rely on, but that's how it
 > played out.
 >
 > Marc

Now all the OP has to do is hire a bride and groom to be all his
pictures

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