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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:18 am
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I grieve with my fellow Americans at the loss of a wonderful man and a
great President. I pray the God will grant mercy and comfort to those
who mourn President Reagan.

During the televised coverage of the State Funeral at the U S Capitol
Building I was impressed by the silence of the military honor guard
drill teams. I was put off by the constant repetition of shutter
clicks. Just how many photographers are needed to visually document
President Reagan's flag-draped casket? I thought the paparazzi
treatment at an event of such solemnity was grossly inappropriate.
Why could there not be just one or two photographers selected from a
pool of names to cover the proceedings, then release the images to all
of the various media outlets for publication? I am a stalwart
activist for photographers' rights, but in this particular scenario I
believe discretion to be the higher part of valor. And for Heaven's
sake, if there were ever a time to use the ultra quiet Leica M-series
camera a Presidential funeral (or any photographed funeral for that
matter) would most surely qualify.

Michael

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:48 am
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"street shooter" <michael.j.hoffman DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in message news:2e0183f8.0406092318.2ad17925@posting.google.com...
 > I grieve with my fellow Americans at the loss of a wonderful man and a
 > great President. I pray the God will grant mercy and comfort to those
 > who mourn President Reagan.

Reagan subverted the U.S. Constitution, made a literal career
out of bashing poor people, threw our grandkids into debt and
slept through most of his cabinet meetings.

Yeah, a true national hero alright. Hell welcomes back home
one of its few permanent members: Ronald Wilson Reagan
(aka 666).

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:55 am
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On 10 Jun 2004 00:18:00 -0700, michael.j.hoffman.TakeThisOut@att.net (street
shooter) wrote:

 >I thought the paparazzi
 >treatment at an event of such solemnity was grossly inappropriate.

_________________________________________________________

I thought just the opposite. I watched the whole thing, about 3.5 hours
worth, and only noticed one photographer, and that only briefly.

People see what they want to see, don't they?

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:59 am
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On Thv, 10 Jvn 2004 01:48:48 -0700, "Rick" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:

 >Reagan svbverted the U.S. Constitvtion, made a literal career
 >ovt of bashing poor people, threw ovr grandkids into debt and
 >slept throvgh most of his cabinet meetings.

_________________________________________________________

A hvndred years from now those things will all be forgotten, bvt the
demise of the Soviet Union will still be talked abovt. Some people can
see what's important and some can't.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:29 am
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"Bill Tvrner" <noway DeleteThis @nohow.com> wrote in message news:jj8gc0lol32i6ghpvcjdg4k8f0rk0gp37n@4ax.com...
 > On Thv, 10 Jvn 2004 01:48:48 -0700, "Rick" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote:
 >
  > >Reagan svbverted the U.S. Constitvtion, made a literal career
  > >ovt of bashing poor people, threw ovr grandkids into debt and
  > >slept throvgh most of his cabinet meetings.
 >
 > _________________________________________________________
 >
 > A hvndred years from now those things will all be forgotten, bvt the
 > demise of the Soviet Union will still be talked abovt. Some people can
 > see what's important and some can't.

The notion that Reagan had anything to do with the demise of
the USSR is a vniqvely American delvsion. The fact is, the
Soviets were only too happy to see Reagan flvsh 3.5 trillion
American tax dollars down the toilet.

All Reagan did was grandstand, and take credit for something
he clearly had absolvtely nothing to do with. The system of
distribvtion in the USSR had collapsed long before Reagan's
spending binge, and if yov're wondering how Mikhail Gorbachev
wovnd vp doing Pizza Hvt commercials, I covld explain it to yov,
bvt I dovbt yovr pea brain covld handle it.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:09 am
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 > All Reagan did was grandstand, and take credit for something
 > he clearly had absolutely nothing to do with.

LOL They all do that! When things aren't going great, they take the heat as
well. Regan wasn't perfect, but he was one of the better presidents.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:24 am
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everyone wants to be the next star. and whoever is fastest is king.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:25 am
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:29:05 -0700, "Rick" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote:

 >All Reagan did was grandstand, and take credit for something
 >he clearly had absolutely nothing to do with.

_________________________________________________________

Complete nonsense. Reagan forced the Soviets to realize two things:

1. The US could afford any degree of arms race they wanted while the
Soviets could not.

2. When Americans make up their minds to do something, they are
absolutely relentless.

The Soviets are no dummies; they saw the handwriting on the wall.

I grant you Reagan was not perfect. I especially deplore the tripling
of the national debt during his term, but in light of the outcome it may
be the greatest bargain America ever got. Opinions differ, you are
welcome to yours.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:45 am
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"Rick" <me RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote in message news:<2iqljmFqaflrU1@vni-berlin.de>...
 > "street shooter" <michael.j.hoffman RemoveThis @att.net> wrote in message news:2e0183f8.0406092318.2ad17925@posting.google.com...
  > > I grieve with my fellow Americans at the loss of a wonderfvl man and a
  > > great President. I pray the God will grant mercy and comfort to those
  > > who movrn President Reagan.
 >
 > Reagan svbverted the U.S. Constitvtion,

Proof?

made a literal career
 > ovt of bashing poor people

Whereas liberals' power is derrived throvgh enslaving those poor
people.

 > threw ovr grandkids into debt

Wrong again.

 > slept throvgh most of his cabinet meetings.

A lie. Shocking, considering the sovrce.

 >
 > Yeah, a trve national hero alright. Hell welcomes back home
 > one of its few permanent members: Ronald Wilson Reagan
 > (aka 666).

He restored pride in America, redvced ovr taxes, dealt the final blow
to the Soviet in the cold war, and got rid of policies that created
fantastic new ideas - like the misery index, for instance.

He also showed people that government, indeed, is NOT the solvtion.
Yov tell me what was different abovt JFK's "ask not what yovr covntry
can do for yov" speech and Reagan's inagvration speech. The message
was the same.

 >
 > Rick

So, little Rick, how does it feel to be vapid, so dereft of ideas,
that yov need to write hate-filled messages here? How did it feel,
Rick, when Ronald Reagan scored the biggest landslide victory of all
time? Svrely the covntry MUST have been crazy, right? Or is it that
yov and yovr paralytic views of economics, defense, and hvman rights
were not in agreement? To argve this wovld mean yov'd need to argve
ideas, Rick, and we've seen what yov're capable of. Let me gvess -
yov're a big fan of Castro, North Korea, and other great socialist
experiments. Indeed, the fall of the Soviet Union mvst have been a
crvshing blow, especially since Reagan brovght it on, Rick. Or, Rick,
perhaps yovr vision of the United States is "nice" socialism, like
Sweden. There yov have it, Rick - Volvos, blondes, and svicide.

So, as THE MOST POPULAR PRESIDENT OF THE LAST 30 YEARS is pvt to rest,
Rick and his Chomsky-ites are left wallowing in self-pity, wondering
why most people loved him so mvch, and how only fovr years of Carter
ineptitvde opened the door to a new America - one the a president
actvally showed leadership, conviction, and pride in his covntry.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:13 pm
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My understanding is that cameras and many, many other personal items,
including food, were prohibited from the parade route for 'security'
reasons.

As for Reagan himself, I would suggest that before he is deified we
remember that his second term was one of the most corrupt in American
history, he souped up an invasion of Grenada to show his macho side
cheaply, he made many blatently racist comments (eg. his famous Stone
Mountain speech) to solidify his white Southern Republican base, and as
governor of California he orchestrated the first air attack on an
American population (a gas attack at UC Berkeley on a day when there
were no demonstrations going on -- I know because I was there and
photographed the entire event).

On the more positive side he did manage to confront the USSR 'evil
empire' and, unlike the guy who is currently trying to wrap himself in
the Reagan mantle, worked his policy through, at times in tandem with
Gorby, without invasions, occupations, prison tortures and the nurturing
of thousands of terrorists. For that much we should be thankful, though
the historical record will show that the USSR was collapsing and Reagan
actually rode the crest of the wave for the most part.

Oh, and when you think of the huge crowds that have gathered in DC
lately, the one lining the parade route yesterday was pretty small.

street shooter wrote:

 > I grieve with my fellow Americans at the loss of a wonderful man and a
 > great President. I pray the God will grant mercy and comfort to those
 > who mourn President Reagan.
 >
 > During the televised coverage of the State Funeral at the U S Capitol
 > Building I was impressed by the silence of the military honor guard
 > drill teams. I was put off by the constant repetition of shutter
 > clicks. Just how many photographers are needed to visually document
 > President Reagan's flag-draped casket? I thought the paparazzi
 > treatment at an event of such solemnity was grossly inappropriate.
 > Why could there not be just one or two photographers selected from a
 > pool of names to cover the proceedings, then release the images to all
 > of the various media outlets for publication? I am a stalwart
 > activist for photographers' rights, but in this particular scenario I
 > believe discretion to be the higher part of valor. And for Heaven's
 > sake, if there were ever a time to use the ultra quiet Leica M-series
 > camera a Presidential funeral (or any photographed funeral for that
 > matter) would most surely qualify.
 >
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:33 pm
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I felt very sad while I watched President Reagans body being taken to the
Capitol. He was one of our greatest Presidents. I did not get to watch much
of the offering on TV, I had 2 Brides come over last evening to view my
work.
I do have to say about the Photographers,...... being a celebrity and actor
it would be proper to have the mirror slap in the backgroung going on for
his funeral.


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"Bill Turner" <noway.TakeThisOut@nohow.com> wrote in message
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 > On 10 Jun 2004 00:18:00 -0700, michael.j.hoffman.TakeThisOut@att.net (street
 > shooter) wrote:
 >
  > >I thought the paparazzi
  > >treatment at an event of such solemnity was grossly inappropriate.
 >
 > _________________________________________________________
 >
 > I thought just the opposite. I watched the whole thing, about 3.5 hours
 > worth, and only noticed one photographer, and that only briefly.
 >
 > People see what they want to see, don't they?
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:15 pm
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"Bill Tvrner" <noway.RemoveThis@nohow.com> wrote in message
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 > On Thv, 10 Jvn 2004 01:48:48 -0700, "Rick" <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net> wrote:
 >
  > >Reagan svbverted the U.S. Constitvtion, made a literal career
  > >ovt of bashing poor people, threw ovr grandkids into debt and
  > >slept throvgh most of his cabinet meetings.
 >
 > _________________________________________________________
 >
 > A hvndred years from now those things will all be forgotten, bvt the
 > demise of the Soviet Union will still be talked abovt. Some people can
 > see what's important and some can't.
 >
 > --
 > BT



What people will be saying a hvndred years from now is not important today,
since there is no way in hell yov, or anyone, can know that.


What is important is what is being said today, and it is all vp for debate.


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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:40 pm
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 > So, as THE MOST POPULAR PRESIDENT OF THE LAST 30 YEARS



Yes, a veritable legend in his own mind, and that of Republicans.


Depends on who is talking.


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<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.fair.org/press-releases/reagan-myth-reality.html" target="_blank">http://www.fair.org/press-releases/reagan-myth-reality.html</a>

MEDIA ADVISORY:
Reagan: Media Myth and Reality

June 9, 2004

As the media spend the week memorializing Ronald Reagan, journalists are
redefining the former president's life and accomplishments with a stream
of hagiographies that frequently skew the facts and gloss over scandal and
criticism.


*Reagan's Popularity

"Ronald Reagan was the most popular president ever to leave office,"
explained ABC anchor Elizabeth Vargas (6/6/04). "His approval ratings
were higher than any other at the end of his second term." Though the
claim was repeated by many news outlets, it is not true; Bill Clinton's
approval ratings when he left office were actually higher than Reagan's,
at 66 percent versus Reagan's 63 percent (Gallup, 1/10-14/01). Franklin
Delano Roosevelt also topped Reagan with a 66 percent approval rating at
the time of his death in office after three and a half terms.

In general, Reagan's popularity during his two terms tends to be
overstated. The Washington Post's lead article on June 6 began by
declaring him "one of the most popular presidents of the 20th Century,"
while ABC's Sam Donaldson announced, "Through travesty, triumph and
tragedy, the president enjoyed unprecedented popularity." The Chicago
Tribune (6/6/04) wrote that "his popularity with the electorate was deep
and personal... rarely did his popularity dip below 50 percent; it often
exceeded 70 percent, an extraordinarily high mark."

But a look at Gallup polling data brings a different perspective. Through
most of his presidency, Reagan did not rate much higher than other
post-World War II presidents. And during his first two years, Reagan's
approval ratings were quite low. His 52 percent average approval rating
for his presidency places him sixth out of the past ten presidents, behind
Kennedy (70 percent), Eisenhower (66 percent), George H.W. Bush (61
percent), Clinton (55 percent), and Johnson (55 percent). His popularity
frequently dipped below 50 percent during his first term, plummeted to 46
percent during the Iran-Contra scandal, and never exceeded 68 percent. (By
contrast, Clinton's maximum approval rating hit 71 percent.)

Some in the media similarly emphasized Reagan's likeability. CBS anchor
Bob Schieffer asserted, "You could hate his policies, but it was hard not
to like Ronald Reagan (6/6/04). But Reagan's "likeability" numbers did not
score much higher than other modern presidents, including Jimmy Carter.
(For more on Reagan polling myths, see:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.fair.org/extra/8903/reagan-popularity.html" target="_blank">http://www.fair.org/extra/8903/reagan-popularity.html</a>)


*No Time for Critical Voices

Mainstream media have relied heavily on Republicans and former Reagan
officials to tell the story of Reagan and his accomplishments, which
results in a decidedly one-sided version of events. A June 7 article in
the New York Times on Reagan's impact claimed that Reagan "was almost
always popular and, many now say, usually right." The article stated that
"Reagan lived long enough to enable many of his old lieutenants, and some
more dispassionate chroniclers as well, to argue that he had also been
right on some of the bigger questions of his time."

Six of the eight sources the article quoted were former Reagan staffers or
Republicans, one was longtime Reagan devotee Margaret Thatcher, and one
was University of Chicago law professor Cass Sunstein, who gave no
argument that Reagan was "right" about anything. No other "dispassionate
chroniclers" were quoted. Should readers be surprised that Reagan's
friends and former colleagues still think he was right?

Television news has displayed an even more pronounced reliance on Reagan's
Republican admirers. The Sunday morning shows (6/6/04) almost exclusively
featured Republicans; former Reagan chief of staff James Baker appeared on
all three networks, as well as Fox and CNN. Fox News Sunday (6/6/04)
featured, in addition to Baker, current national security advisor
Condoleezza Rice, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, and Sheila Tate,
former press secretary for Nancy Reagan. MSNBC's June 6 Hardball program
featured Republican Sen. Elizabeth Dole, Republican representatives David
Dreier and Chris Cox, and Reagan strategist Richard Wirthlin.

Interviewing Reagan's admirers may have provided an intimate view of the
former president, but it yielded virtually no acknowledgment of his flaws.
Former Secretary of State Alexander Haig, when questioned by CNN's
Anderson Cooper (6/6/04) to name Reagan's greatest weakness or failing,
responded, "I'm not going to criticize the President. And even if I wanted
to, I would never do it on an occasion such as this. We should be grateful
that the world was a better place because of Ronald Reagan's presidency."

Even when potentially critical voices were included, the tendency was to
soften any disagreements over Reagan's policy. On NPR's Morning Edition
(6/7/04), Susan Stamberg interviewed Republican congressman Dana
Rohrabacher along with Democratic strategist Paul Begala. Clearly,
though, this was no time for disagreement, as evidenced by one of
Stamberg's questions to Begala: "You once famously said that politics is
show business for ugly people. Ronald Reagan makes a liar out of you. He
was an extremely handsome, attractive man." Begala's response: "Boy, was
he."



*Reagan's Legacy

Reagan's influence over world politics and the direction of the Republican
Party were important aspects of the media's Reagan tributes. But more
often than not, the more controversial aspects of Reagan's legacy were
either downplayed or recast as footnotes.

Time magazine (6/14/04) cheered that "the Reagan years were another of
those hinges upon which history sometimes turns. On one side, a wounded
but still vigorous liberalism with its faith in government as the answer
to almost every question. On the other, a free market so triumphant-- even
after the tech bubble burst-- that we look first to 'growth,' not
government, to solve most problems." As NBC's John Hockenberry put it
(6/5/04), "The Reagan revolution imagined the unimaginable. When poverty
and welfare were at crisis levels in the 1980s, Reagan declared war on
government and turned his back on the welfare state." The long-term
impact of cuts in social spending, gutted environmental protections and
other casualties of Reagan's "war on government" were relegated to passing
mentions.

Reagan's fervent support for right-wing governments in Central America was
one of the defining foreign policies of his administration, and the fact
that death squads associated with those governments murdered tens of
thousands of civilians surely must be included in any reckoning of
Reagan's successes and failures.

But a search of major U.S. newspapers in the Nexis news database turns up
the phrase "death squad" only five times in connection with Reagan in the
days following his death--twice in commentaries (Philadelphia Inquirer,
6/6/04; Chicago Tribune, 6/8/04) and twice in letters to the editor (San
Francisco Chronicle, 6/8/04; L.A. Times, 6/8/04). Only one news article
found in the search (L.A. Times, 6/6/04) considered the death squads an
important enough part of Reagan's legacy to be worth mentioning. The
three broadcast networks, CNN and Fox didn't mention death squads at all,
according to Nexis. Nor were any references found in the transcripts of
the broadcast networks to the fact that Reagan's policy of supporting
Islamicist insurgents against the Soviet-backed government of Afghanistan
led to the rise of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

The Reagan administration's friendly policy towards Saddam Hussein was
also a neglected media topic. During the Reagan years, the U.S. offered
significant support to Iraq, including weapons components, military
intelligence, and even some of the ingredients for manufacturing
biological weapons like anthrax (Newsweek, 9/23/02).

The rare opportunities for critical reflection about Reagan's policies
were turned into additional evidence of his strength, as when Time
magazine (6/14/04) suggested, "Even when his views were most
intransigent-- when he wondered out loud whether Martin Luther King Jr.
was a communist or failed for nearly all of his presidency to speak the
word AIDS even once-- Reagan gave Reaganism a human face." Time followed
that strange assessment with a comment from Bush adviser Karl Rove: "He
made us sunny optimists... His was a conservatism of laughter and openness
and community."

Journalists seemed determined to show that any criticisms of Reagan could
be turned upside down. As Dan Rather explained on CBS's 60 Minutes
(6/6/04), "The literal-minded were forever troubled by his tendency to
sometimes confuse life with the movies. But he understood, like very few
leaders before or since, the power of myth and storytelling. In his films
and his political life, Ronald Reagan stood at the intersection where
dreams and reality meet, and with a wink and a one-liner, always held out
hope for a happy ending."

Even Reagan's contradictions were somehow construed as strong points. As
Time put it (6/14/04), "So great was Reagan's victory in making his
preoccupations into enduring themes of the national conversation that it
may not matter that his record didn't always match his rhetoric. He
insisted, for instance, that a balanced budget was one of his priorities.
But by the time Reagan left office, a combination of lower tax revenues
and sharply higher spending for defense had sent the deficit through the
roof."

The Iran-Contra scandal, which loomed too large to ignore, was often
written off by journalists. "As we look back today, it's like just a
speck in the eight years of his presidency," explained CNN's Judy Woodruff
(6/7/04). Meet the Press host Tim Russert (6/6/04) showed a clip of
Reagan's famous response to the scandal, in which he stated, "A few months
ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My
heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true. But the facts and
the evidence tell me it is not." Russert described this tortured evasion
of culpability as "very believable."

Whatever reporters made of Iran-Contra, though, Reagan's triumph over such
problems was more important than the incidents themselves. CBS reporter
Anthony Mason (6/6/04) explained: "The deficit doubled during the Reagan
years. His second term was scarred by the Iran Contra scandal, but he
never lost that common touch.... Ronald Reagan had an uncanny ability to
make Americans feel good about themselves." That bond with American
citizens remained front-and-center throughout the media. As CBS anchor Dan
Rather put it (6/5/04), Reagan "was the great communicator, yes. But he
was also a master at communicating greatness. He understood that, as he
once put it, 'History is a ribbon always unfurling,' and managed to convey
his vision in terms both simple and poetic. And so he was able to act as
a conduit to connect us to who we had been and who we could be."



*Reagan and the Media

The overwhelmingly positive coverage of Reagan struck some as a
significant change. As Washington Post media reporter Howard Kurtz noted
(6/7/04): "The uplifting tone with which journalists are eulogizing Ronald
Reagan is obscuring a central fact of his presidency: He had a very
contentious relationship with the press." Others would certainly disagree
with Kurtz's assessment-- Mark Heertsgaard's 1991 book, "On Bended Knee:
The Press & the Reagan Presidency," for example, characterizes the press
corps as being basically uncritical during the Reagan years.

In any event, it would be hard to argue that current coverage of Reagan
carries any lingering traces of that formerly "contentious" relationship.
If anything, some reporters now seem to think that the main lesson learned
from the Reagan years was not to be critical. As ABC's Sam Donaldson put
it (6/4/04), "Reporters over the years made the mistake of saying, 'Well,
he made this mistake, he made this mistake. He got that fact wrong.' The
American public got it right. It didn't matter."

Finally, Tom Rosenstiel of the Project for Excellence in Journalism (USA
Today, 6/7/04) gave an interesting take on what he acknowledged were
"almost completely uncritical" media reports on Reagan: "For networks that
are accused of being liberal, this is a way for them to show that they are
fair." One would hope that such an overwhelmingly uncritical assessment
of important political and historical matters would not meet anyone's
definition of "fair" journalism.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:52 pm
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street shooter wrote:

 > I grieve with my fellow Americans at the loss of a wonderful man and a
 > great President. I pray the God will grant mercy and comfort to those
 > who mourn President Reagan.
 >
 > During the televised coverage of the State Funeral at the U S Capitol
 > Building I was impressed by the silence of the military honor guard
 > drill teams. I was put off by the constant repetition of shutter
 > clicks. Just how many photographers are needed to visually document
 > President Reagan's flag-draped casket? I thought the paparazzi
 > treatment at an event of such solemnity was grossly inappropriate.
 > Why could there not be just one or two photographers selected from a
 > pool of names to cover the proceedings, then release the images to all
 > of the various media outlets for publication? I am a stalwart
 > activist for photographers' rights, but in this particular scenario I
 > believe discretion to be the higher part of valor. And for Heaven's
 > sake, if there were ever a time to use the ultra quiet Leica M-series
 > camera a Presidential funeral (or any photographed funeral for that
 > matter) would most surely qualify.


As I recall, one photographer at the White House used only
Leica's for the reason that they are near silent.

The RR funeral proceedings are History (cap "H") and 'it' will be
documented in great detail. This may seem undignified, but many
people will look at these images over the next hundreds of years
and fully appreciate that the images were made.

Look at the photos on the Washington Post site of the current
goings on. Many poignant and dignified photos.

Cheers,
Alan





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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:17 pm
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Actually, I think the parade route was wide open to anything. I saw
tons of cameras (tourist-types, not pros) when they were transferring
the casket from the hearse to the horse drawn thingy (cason?). The
line leading into the Capitol Rotunda and the Rotunda/viewing itself
were pretty locked down. No cameras, large bags, backpacks, food,
beverage, blankets, etc.

-gary
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:13:39 -0400, Ron G <rgood.RemoveThis@netzero.com> wrote:

 >My understanding is that cameras and many, many other personal items,
 >including food, were prohibited from the parade route for 'security'
 >reasons.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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