Alcatraz Island with the Panasonic FZ8

John Navas wrote:
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> <http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alcatrazislandix7.jpg>

Could you perhaps saturate the photo a bit more? It hasn't quite burned
a permanent ghost into my screen yet.
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:55:41 GMT, JT's Ghost
<justatroll RemoveThis @mad.scientist.com> wrote in <1D6vj.32358$s33.7474@trndny06>:

>John Navas <spamfilter1 RemoveThis @navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> Full resolution:
>> <http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alcatrazislandix7.jpg>
>
>Do you photograph everything (your website included) with this camera
>model?
>
> - JT
>just asking a question, not looking to get into anything with you over it

Only my most recent photos have been taken with my FZ8. Prior photos
have taken with a variety of other digital cameras, including the
Panasonic FZ5, Olympus D-40Z (still my favorite pocket camera), Olympus
C-2500L (arguably the first serious bridge camera), and several more.
And before that my film photos with taken with Canon T-90, A-1, AE-1,
and several more.

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Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)
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John Navas <spamfilter1.DeleteThis@navasgroup.com> wrote:

: Only my most recent photos have been taken with my FZ8. Prior photos
: have taken with a variety of other digital cameras, including the
: Panasonic FZ5, Olympus D-40Z (still my favorite pocket camera), Olympus
: C-2500L (arguably the first serious bridge camera)...

What in your opinion are the best cameras in these categories today? As
advanved as possible but pocketable; bridge. (Currently sold models.)
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"Cynicor" <j...tru.p..in RemoveThis @sp.eake.a.sy.net> wrote in message
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> John Navas wrote:
>> Full resolution:
>> <http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alcatrazislandix7.jpg>
>
> Could you perhaps saturate the photo a bit more? It hasn't quite burned a
> permanent ghost into my screen yet.

I was far more concerned with the total loss of detail in everywhere but the
centre of the shot, quite disappointing result really, mind you the
saturation is quite sad though..
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Newbie wrote:
[]
> What in your opinion are the best cameras in these categories today?
> As advanved as possible but pocketable; bridge. (Currently sold
> models.)

Best for what?

Pocket camera: Panasonic TZ3
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonictz3/

ZLR (bridge), mostly too-small sensors with too many pixels now, resulting
in poor image quality. If you're spending that much and considering a
"bridge" camera, a low-end DSLR may be better overall value for money.
Some like the Pentax, I prefer the Nikon (e.g. D40 for lowest cost). I
still have my Panasonic FZ5, but I've not tried the FZ8

David
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Pete D wrote:
> "Cynicor" <j...tru.p..in RemoveThis @sp.eake.a.sy.net> wrote in message
> news:8qOdnZ-7IszuaiHanZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> John Navas wrote:
>>> Full resolution:
>>> <http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alcatrazislandix7.jpg>
>>
>> Could you perhaps saturate the photo a bit more? It hasn't quite
>> burned a permanent ghost into my screen yet.
>
> I was far more concerned with the total loss of detail in everywhere
> but the centre of the shot, quite disappointing result really, mind
> you the saturation is quite sad though..

Lack of detail on the right-hand side - look at the lack of detail in the
large brown tree, and how the buildings on the distant hill have been
converted into an impressionist painting - perhaps by too much noise
reduction.... The water looks painted on as well.

Not a good advert for the camera.

David
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On 2008-02-21, Pete D <no.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote:
>
> "Cynicor" <j...tru.p..in.RemoveThis@sp.eake.a.sy.net> wrote in message
> news:8qOdnZ-7IszuaiHanZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> John Navas wrote:
>>> Full resolution:
>>> <http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alcatrazislandix7.jpg>
>>
>> Could you perhaps saturate the photo a bit more? It hasn't quite burned a
>> permanent ghost into my screen yet.
>
> I was far more concerned with the total loss of detail in everywhere but the
> centre of the shot, quite disappointing result really, mind you the
> saturation is quite sad though..

Congratulations on finding detail in the centre. I can't see any
anywhere.

Without knowing John's motive in posting this, and I only see it
second-hand -- he's been way down my scorefile for months, doesn't this
rather give the lie to his claim elsewhere to be able to distinguish
lenses from 10x8 prints?

Apparently he's proud of an ability to distinguish a seagull from a white
rock. Or whatever those white smudges all over the island are.

--
Chris Savage Kiss me. Or would you rather live in a
Gateshead, UK land where the soap won't lather?
- Billy Bragg
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"David J Taylor"
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> Pete D wrote:
>> "Cynicor" <j...tru.p..in.TakeThisOut@sp.eake.a.sy.net> wrote in message
>> news:8qOdnZ-7IszuaiHanZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>> John Navas wrote:
>>>> Full resolution:
>>>> <http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alcatrazislandix7.jpg>
>>>
>>> Could you perhaps saturate the photo a bit more? It hasn't quite
>>> burned a permanent ghost into my screen yet.
>>
>> I was far more concerned with the total loss of detail in everywhere
>> but the centre of the shot, quite disappointing result really, mind
>> you the saturation is quite sad though..
>
> Lack of detail on the right-hand side - look at the lack of detail in the
> large brown tree, and how the buildings on the distant hill have been
> converted into an impressionist painting - perhaps by too much noise
> reduction.... The water looks painted on as well.
>
> Not a good advert for the camera.
>
> David


Sadly this is a shot he is using to show off his camera and skills, quite
amazing really, simply sad.
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"Rita Berkowitz" <ritaberk2008 DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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> David J Taylor wrote:
>
>> Lack of detail on the right-hand side - look at the lack of detail in
>> the large brown tree, and how the buildings on the distant hill have
>> been converted into an impressionist painting - perhaps by too much
>> noise reduction.... The water looks painted on as well.
>
> Navas is an image thief! He stole one of Bret's pics. You described
> Bret's
> work to a tee.
>
>
>
> Rita
>

You waving your winky again? Wrong place mate.
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:57:24 GMT, Newbie <newbie.RemoveThis@no.spam> wrote in
<210220080000088299%newbie@no.spam>:

>John Navas <spamfilter1.RemoveThis@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>: Only my most recent photos have been taken with my FZ8. Prior photos
>: have taken with a variety of other digital cameras, including the
>: Panasonic FZ5, Olympus D-40Z (still my favorite pocket camera), Olympus
>: C-2500L (arguably the first serious bridge camera)...
>
>What in your opinion are the best cameras in these categories today? As
>advanved as possible but pocketable; bridge. (Currently sold models.)

Arguably the best:
* Fujifilm FinePix F31fd

Also very good:
* Canon PowerShot SD850 IS
* Canon PowerShot SD950 IS
* Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ3

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Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:34:53 GMT, John Navas
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>Full resolution:
><http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alcatrazislandix7.jpg>

Oops -- wrong image. What I had intended to post:
<http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alcatrazislandse4.jpg>
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Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)
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