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Since: Nov 15, 2004 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:22 pm
Post subject: 4008-MegxonC480 Archived from groups: rec>photo>digital>zlr (more info?)
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Since: Oct 28, 2004 Posts: 604
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:48 pm
Post subject: Re: 4008-MegxonC480 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Steve Yelland wrote:
> Can anyone tell me if this cam is worth getting.
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.greenbaytech.com/ebay/Praktica-Luxmedia-4008.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.greenbaytech.com/ebay/Praktica-Luxmedia-4008.jpg</font</a>>
Praktica is a name from the 1960s but I've never heard of them in
connection with any digital camera, nor do they appear in the list a
manufacturers at D P Review. What does that say? My guess is that this
is another maker's camera rebadged as Praktica, but perhaps I'm wrong.
For a long zoom camera, I would now regard image stabilisation as an
essential feature.
Cheers,
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Since: Nov 15, 2004 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:57 pm
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Thank you
"David J Taylor" <david-taylor.DeleteThis@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:2vsfh9F2p6gsiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Steve Yelland wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me if this cam is worth getting.
<font color=green> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.greenbaytech.com/ebay/Praktica-Luxmedia-4008.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.greenbaytech.com/ebay/Praktica-Luxmedia-4008.jpg</font</a>>
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> Praktica is a name from the 1960s but I've never heard of them in
> connection with any digital camera, nor do they appear in the list a
> manufacturers at D P Review. What does that say? My guess is that this
> is another maker's camera rebadged as Praktica, but perhaps I'm wrong.
>
> For a long zoom camera, I would now regard image stabilisation as an
> essential feature.
>
> Cheers,
> David
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Since: Nov 17, 2004 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:28 am
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"Steve Yelland" <steve.DeleteThis@sps-soundre.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<cnavm7$ic3$1$830fa7a5@news.demon.co.uk>...
> Can anyone tell me if this cam is worth getting.
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.greenbaytech.com/ebay/Praktica-Luxmedia-4008.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.greenbaytech.com/ebay/Praktica-Luxmedia-4008.jpg</font</a>>
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> Not sure what it is.
> Any thoughts?
Sounds like a generic digital camera (Aiptek, Muztek, whatever) with a
pseudo badge. I would stay away from it and stick with one of the
major manufacturers like Olympus.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 4008-MegxonC480 |
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Since: Nov 17, 2004 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:44 am
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"David J Taylor" <david-taylor.RemoveThis@invalid.com> wrote in message news:<2vsfh9F2p6gsiU1.RemoveThis@uni-berlin.de>...
> For a long zoom camera, I would now regard image stabilisation as an
> essential feature.
That is a nice luxury feature, but it is better to not assume that
everyone's needs are the same as yours. I shoot mostly landscapes and
cityscapes on a tripod, with the lens stopped down. I would have very
little or no use for IS. Going back to the old days, the best
photographers lived without such tools as IS. The emphasis was on
optics. The Olympus C-8080 has a lens on it with virtually no
distortion throughout the entire zoom range. This can not be said
about any other ZLR.
Different people have different needs. (Depeche Mode)  <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 4008-MegxonC480 |
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Since: Oct 28, 2004 Posts: 604
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:57 pm
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Lukas Varossieau wrote:
> "David J Taylor" <david-taylor.TakeThisOut@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:<2vsfh9F2p6gsiU1.TakeThisOut@uni-berlin.de>...
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>> For a long zoom camera, I would now regard image stabilisation as an
>> essential feature.
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> That is a nice luxury feature, but it is better to not assume that
> everyone's needs are the same as yours. I shoot mostly landscapes and
> cityscapes on a tripod, with the lens stopped down. I would have very
> little or no use for IS.
But neither would you be buying a camera with a long zoom lens for
landscapes. If you need the long zoom, IS is /not/ a luxury, and in fact
if you want to get the best out of a camera by shooting at e.g. ISO 50 IS
is not even a luxury for wider angle shots, but a very useful feature to
enable those lower light hand-held shots to be sharp without needing that
tripod.
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Since: Sep 16, 2004 Posts: 120
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:18 am
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"David J Taylor" <david-taylor DeleteThis @invalid.com> wrote in
news:300p4eF2msrijU1@uni-berlin.de:
> Lukas Varossieau wrote:
>> "David J Taylor" <david-taylor DeleteThis @invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:<2vsfh9F2p6gsiU1 DeleteThis @uni-berlin.de>...
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>>> For a long zoom camera, I would now regard image stabilisation as an
>>> essential feature.
>>
>> That is a nice luxury feature, but it is better to not assume that
>> everyone's needs are the same as yours. I shoot mostly landscapes and
>> cityscapes on a tripod, with the lens stopped down. I would have very
>> little or no use for IS.
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> But neither would you be buying a camera with a long zoom lens for
> landscapes. If you need the long zoom, IS is /not/ a luxury, and in
> fact if you want to get the best out of a camera by shooting at e.g.
> ISO 50 IS is not even a luxury for wider angle shots, but a very
> useful feature to enable those lower light hand-held shots to be sharp
> without needing that tripod.
>
Hi guys. I think you two are talking about two different kinds of ZLRs. The
Olympus 8080 is more of a medium zoom..5X 28-150mm equiv. This camera's
lens goes fairly wide, and it is not bad for landscapes. I can see why IS
would not be as critical a feature on this camera as it would be on a 12X
super-zoom like the Panasonic Lumix FZ10. They are both really nice
cameras, and have feature sets that compliment their respective lenses.
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Since: Oct 28, 2004 Posts: 604
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:23 am
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Woodchuck Bill wrote:
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> Hi guys. I think you two are talking about two different kinds of
> ZLRs. The Olympus 8080 is more of a medium zoom..5X 28-150mm equiv.
> This camera's lens goes fairly wide, and it is not bad for
> landscapes. I can see why IS would not be as critical a feature on
> this camera as it would be on a 12X super-zoom like the Panasonic
> Lumix FZ10. They are both really nice cameras, and have feature sets
> that compliment their respective lenses.
What has surprised me though, Bill, is how useful a tool IS is in any
case, even for wide-angle shots. We were recently comparing the Nikon
8400 and the Panasonic FZ20 in less that ideal daylight, quite a miserable
day to be honest, and the smaller aperture of the 8400 at 85mm focal
length was requiring shutter speeds of 1/8 whereas it was 1/30 on the
FZ20. With the IS, hand-holding 85mm at 1/30 is no problem, whereas the
8400 required support to avoid blur.
So while some of the gain was the f/2.8 lens, the IS helped a lot.
I hadn't expected this (although I'd done the sums, hence the FZ20 rather
than the Niko 8800), and now really want IS even in a wide-angle camera.
Cheers,
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Since: Nov 18, 2004 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:55 am
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Lukas Varossieau decided to say......
> That is a nice luxury feature, but it is better to not assume that
> everyone's needs are the same as yours. I shoot mostly landscapes and
> cityscapes on a tripod, with the lens stopped down. I would have very
> little or no use for IS. Going back to the old days, the best
> photographers lived without such tools as IS. The emphasis was on
> optics. The Olympus C-8080 has a lens on it with virtually no
> distortion throughout the entire zoom range. This can not be said
> about any other ZLR.
The Panasonics have very good optics too. Don't forget about the Leica
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:55 am
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Woodchuck Bill decided to say......
> Hi guys. I think you two are talking about two different kinds of ZLRs.
> The Olympus 8080 is more of a medium zoom..5X 28-150mm equiv. This
> camera's lens goes fairly wide, and it is not bad for landscapes. I can
> see why IS would not be as critical a feature on this camera as it would
> be on a 12X super-zoom like the Panasonic Lumix FZ10. They are both
> really nice cameras, and have feature sets that compliment their
> respective lenses.
The FZ10 has been replaced by the FZ15. Both are fine cameras, though
neither should be compared to the 8 MP Oly 8080. The FZ20 is the high end
model of the Pansonic long zooms, at 5MP.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 4008-MegxonC480 |
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Since: Nov 17, 2004 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:09 pm
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"Yuri Drekov" <neofreudian.TakeThisOut@gazeta.pl> wrote in message news:<xn0dpwcg84nons9006.TakeThisOut@news.gazeta.pl>...
> Woodchuck Bill decided to say......
>
> > Hi guys. I think you two are talking about two different kinds of ZLRs.
> > The Olympus 8080 is more of a medium zoom..5X 28-150mm equiv. This
> > camera's lens goes fairly wide, and it is not bad for landscapes. I can
> > see why IS would not be as critical a feature on this camera as it would
> > be on a 12X super-zoom like the Panasonic Lumix FZ10. They are both
> > really nice cameras, and have feature sets that compliment their
> > respective lenses.
>
> The FZ10 has been replaced by the FZ15. Both are fine cameras, though
> neither should be compared to the 8 MP Oly 8080. The FZ20 is the high end
> model of the Pansonic long zooms, at 5MP.
Are you saying that the FZ20 should be compared to the Olympus Camedia
C-8080? The Olympus is 8 megapixel, the Panasonic is 5. The Panasonic
is a long zoom, the Olympus is a wide zoom. I am not saying that the
Panasonic is a poor camera. All reviews put it at the top of the long
zoom 5 megapixel selection, but the Olympus has much greater
resolution and a superior lens. Some of us do not need that long of a
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