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rudym

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:40 pm
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From all the advice and tips I have received lately it appears for me that
Canon is the way to go for sports, action, general use and low light
wildlife (hunting). I understand the Canon IS is better than the Nikon VR
(maybe not by much however) Canon has a broader lens selection than does
Nikon (which has quite a few). So it boils down to getting a 20D now, and
not much else, or getting a Rebel XT now, and having a chunk of cash left
over to put towards a nice lens now--such as a 70-200 f/2.8L IS. So--what
do you guys suggest? For me, I am sure both cameras would take fine photos.
The 20D is 2fps faster, and has ISO 3200 (great for hunting racks on deer
for cataloging what's out there).

The D70 has been out there for over a year so I am sure it will be replaced
soon just as the original Rebel has been. I am pretty certain the 20D is
going to upgraded too in the next 9 months or so--therefore the XT would
remain "current" longer. Besides, my sister would take an XT off my hands a
year from now real fast!

As for a general purpose walk-about lens--should I stick with the "kit lens"
or get the 17-85 IS lens? (with either camera).

Or should I just say the heck with it and put another grand on the card and
get the 20D!

As for flash--should I get the new 580EX or the older 550EX or the smaller
420EX? I think the 550EX is too big to carry around often in a pocket and
the 580EX is pretty high priced--do most get buy with the 420EX? What about
the Sigma flash?

Thanks--Rudy

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soundy1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:12 pm
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Rudy--K8SWD wrote:

 > From all the advice and tips I have received lately it appears for me that
 > Canon is the way to go for sports, action, general use and low light
 > wildlife (hunting). I understand the Canon IS is better than the Nikon VR
 > (maybe not by much however) Canon has a broader lens selection than does
 > Nikon (which has quite a few). So it boils down to getting a 20D now, and
 > not much else, or getting a Rebel XT now, and having a chunk of cash left
 > over to put towards a nice lens now--such as a 70-200 f/2.8L IS. So--what
 > do you guys suggest? For me, I am sure both cameras would take fine photos.
 > The 20D is 2fps faster, and has ISO 3200 (great for hunting racks on deer
 > for cataloging what's out there).
 >
 > The D70 has been out there for over a year so I am sure it will be replaced
 > soon just as the original Rebel has been. I am pretty certain the 20D is
 > going to upgraded too in the next 9 months or so--therefore the XT would
 > remain "current" longer. Besides, my sister would take an XT off my hands a
 > year from now real fast!
 >
 > As for a general purpose walk-about lens--should I stick with the "kit lens"
 > or get the 17-85 IS lens? (with either camera).
 >
 > Or should I just say the heck with it and put another grand on the card and
 > get the 20D!
 >
 > As for flash--should I get the new 580EX or the older 550EX or the smaller
 > 420EX? I think the 550EX is too big to carry around often in a pocket and
 > the 580EX is pretty high priced--do most get buy with the 420EX? What about
 > the Sigma flash?

Personally, if I could "afford" it, I'd bite the bullet and get the 20D;
it's a far more substantial camera just a few FPS more. But that's me.
The 18-55mm kit lens with the DRebel is a remarkably good lens... for
what's ostensibly a $50 lens. Given the choice I'd much prefer the
17-85 IS. Actually, IS aside, I'd pick up a Tamron 28-300 XR, as I've
always really liked Tamron's glass for the price (they're no Canon
L-series, but neither is the price tag).

As far as flash, I have a 420EX, and it's a pretty nice unit. I've used
it effectively at stock car races (always be careful never to shoot
flash at the front of the car in low light!).<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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nospam28

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:12 pm
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 > So it boils down to getting a 20D now, and
 > not much else, or getting a Rebel XT now, and having a chunk of cash left
 > over to put towards a nice lens now--such as a 70-200 f/2.8L IS.
 > So--what
 > do you guys suggest? For me, I am sure both cameras would take fine
 > photos. The 20D is 2fps faster, and has ISO 3200 (great for hunting racks
 > on deer for cataloging what's out there).

The price difference between the two cameras is about US$500-600, which is a
decent amount of money. Only you can decide whether the extra features of
the 20D are worth it. For me, they were. But as you say, "For me, I am sure
both cameras would take fine photos" so it sounds like you might already
have your answer - the XT is cheaper. Then again, if you're going to bolt a
US$1,700 piece of glass to the front of it, perhaps money isn't such an
object! The 20D is undoubtedly a superior camera.

 > The D70 has been out there for over a year so I am sure it will be
 > replaced
 > soon just as the original Rebel has been. I am pretty certain the 20D is
 > going to upgraded too in the next 9 months or so--therefore the XT would
 > remain "current" longer.

This idea of what is "current" and what is going to be replaced soon is
cropping up more and more in this newsgroup and is starting to get on my
nerves! Accept that *everything* is going to be replaced soon - this is
about *photography* for goodness sake, not investment or posing toys!
Current DSLR technology is edging forwards only very slightly these days.
The next model might have a slightly bigger screen, start up 0.1 seconds
faster or something, but it's mostly marketing you're seeing. Buy what you
want now from what is available now and get out shooting. Or go and sit in
a room somewhere and wait for your life to pass you by!

 > As for a general purpose walk-about lens--should I stick with the "kit
 > lens" or get the 17-85 IS lens? (with either camera).

If you're after a 70-200 2.8 IS L lens for your telephoto I suspect you're
going to be disappointed with the kit lens. The 17-85 is a dramatic
improvement, but I went the whole hog and got a 17-40mm L.

Someone on here said that there's not much point in buying low to medium
level glass if you really want L stuff and will shortly end up replacing
your initial purchases anyway. Seemed like sound advice to me.

 > Or should I just say the heck with it and put another grand on the card
 > and get the 20D!

That's what I did. I haven't regretted it. Surprised)

 > As for flash--should I get the new 580EX or the older 550EX or the smaller
 > 420EX? I think the 550EX is too big to carry around often in a pocket and
 > the 580EX is pretty high priced--do most get buy with the 420EX? What
 > about the Sigma flash?

I've never used a flash and don't intend to anytime soon, so I can't help
there.

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Mike the Cop

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:05 am
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Rudy,
I chose the 20D.

This past weekend I took my 20D to the Barber's Motorsports Park for
"Superbike Track Day". With it set on small image, I took well over 1500
shots of motorcycles doing what they do best...go fast.

You won't regret going off the hip for the 20D. And I also was shooting
with the Sigma 75-300 lens. My Sigma flash should be here this week.
Mike

"Rudy--K8SWD" <rudym.TakeThisOut@net-link.net> wrote in message
news:11414sqcul4beb9@corp.supernews.com...

 > Or should I just say the heck with it and put another grand on the card
 > and get the 20D!
 >
 > As for flash--should I get the new 580EX or the older 550EX or the smaller
 > 420EX? I think the 550EX is too big to carry around often in a pocket and
 > the 580EX is pretty high priced--do most get buy with the 420EX? What
 > about the Sigma flash?
 >
 > Thanks--Rudy
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mitchalsup1

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:22 pm
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Lenses you should investigate independently of going with a 20D or a
XT:

24-70 F/2.8 L USM, 16-35 F/2.8 L USM, 10-22 F/3.5-4.5 USM, 70-200 L USM

I have the 24-70 as my walkaround lens. This lens makes more sense if
you
can swing the cash because it allows the 10-22, 24-70 and 70-200 to
cover a
20X focal length range for the very vast majority of FL needs. And, of
course
all these lense are top notch in sharpness, contrast, and speed of
operation.
Stepping back, the 17-85 is a fine mid-range lens, and the 18-55 is a
fine
$100 lens. But neither center you future lens collection like the 24-70
does.

 >From the images I have seen from the XT, the 20D has a slight advantage
in
the noise department.

The 20D is at least 12 months away from replacement and more likely 18
months
away from replacement, and it will be replaced before 24 months have
past.

I have found the on-camera flash to be perfectly useable.

Mitch<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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